sooley/morton sooley

[karen43]

At present I am researching my family tree.My maiden name was Karen Sooley,my father is Terence Neil Sooley born 1933,my grandfather was George William Sooley born in elm 1886,my great grandfather was George Morton Sooley born elm 1850-1854and his fathers name was John Morton Sooley.I cannot seem to be able to trace John Morton Sooley,who he married or who his children were.If anyone could help Iwould be grateful|bowdown|

MANY THANKS.KAREN XX

[Sue Mackay]

1861 census: RG9; Piece: 1052; Folio: 80; Page: 10

Elm, Cambridgeshire

John Morton SOOLEY Head Mar 54 Market gardener b. Cambs, Elm
Sarah M SOOLEY Wife 40 b. Cambs, Elm
Children (all born in Elm)
Ann M 17
William M 14
George M 11
Alfred M 9
Hannah 8
Henry 6
Joseph 4
Sarah 2
Frances BOSWORTH Mother Widow 84 Alms woman b. March

Found on FreeBMD
Marriage of John Morton SOOLEY to Sarah BOSWORTH
Dec qtr 1839 Wisbech Registration District Vol 14 page 261

[Sue Mackay]

In 1851 John Morton SOOLEY (44) was living at 71 Oldfield, Elm and was a farmer of 8 acres. HO107; Piece: 1767; Folio: 374; Page: 17
As well as Sarah (30) were:
John 23
Hart M 9 (this is a daughter so is probably short for Harriet)
Esther M 8
Ann M 7
Wm M 5
Fred M 3
George M 1

In view of the age gap between John and Harriet I would imagine that John, the eldest son, was from a previous marriage.

[karen43]

dear sue. thank you for taking your time to look at my family tree.The john morton sooley mentioned i think is my great great uncle.The other John sooley listed in the 1851 cencus with him is his brother i believe and THIS is the one i am trying to trace.This john sooley would have been born in 1828 and was the son of john and susannah,the other john morton sooley was the eldest illigitimate son of susannah!are you confused yet?

[Sue Mackay]

are you confused yet?
Very! :confused:

The John Morton Sooley you appear to be after died aged 60 in March qtr 1888 Wisbech Vol 3b page 428

[karen43]

yes this is the one!!!!!BUT I cant find out anything about him:confused:
He seems to have been born in 1828 and died in 1888 but what he did inbetween is a mystery!I cannot find a marriage record, children census,nothing.This is why i am so confused

[Sue Mackay]

Here is John Sooley, son/brother of John Morton Sooley on 1861 census for 65 Oldfield, Elm, RG9; Piece: 1052; Folio: 81; Page: 12

John Sooley Head Mar 33 aglab b. Elm
Eliza Sooley Wife Mar 32 b. Norfolk, West Walton
Elizabeth dau 1 b. Elm

John SOOLEY married Eliza HOWARD Sep qtr 1854 Wisbech Vol 3b page 919

Eliza SOOLEY died June qtr 1890 aged 61 Wisbech Vol 3b page 356

[Sue Mackay]

Aha! Circumvented the index by omitting the surname and seraching for Elizabeth born in Elm in 1860. Found them correctly written as Sooley but mistranscribed as Scobey.

RG10; Piece: 1620; Folio: 27; Page: 12 (Elm)
John Sooley Head Mar 43 Gardener b. Elm
Eliza wife 42 b West Walton, Norfolk
Children all born Elm
Elizabeth 11
George M 9
Robert S 6
John M 4
William M 2
Frank M 11mo

[Sue Mackay]

In 1881 they dropped the Sooley altogether! Again found them via Christian name search with dob in Elm

RG11; Piece: 1696; Folio: 61; Page: 15
Hook Passage, [what looks like Agenoria St] Wisbech

John MORTON Head Mar 53 Labourer b. Elm
Eliza Do. Wife 52 b. Norfolk, Walton W.
Robert Do. Son 16 Ostler b. Elm
John Do. Son 14 b. Elm
William Do. Son 12 b. Elm
Frank Do. Son 10 b. Elm

[karen43]

hiya Sue.
I think i may have solved the mystery!!!The elder John morton Sooley is now looking more likely to be my great great grandfather.My father has just been in and I asked how he knew that John had attended the wedding of George morton sooley.He replied "because his name was on the certificate"I then asked if it had just asked for Georges fathers name and he said yes.So he could have possibly already passed away! He hadn,t even realised that it was just a formality to have fathers name on cert! he just assumed he was there!!!!!!!!!
Well I hope I am right anyway ha ha it solves a lot of mysteries for me! thanks again for your help.|jumphappy

[Sue Mackay]

The IGI has a marriage in Elm on 21 March 1826 between a John Morton Sooley and Susannah Goodson. This would seem to be right for the first marriage of the elder JMS on the 1851, with his son JMS Junior (who married Eliza) being born in 1828? Then, if Susannah died, the other children from Harriet onwards would be children of JMS Senior and Sarah Bosworth?

[Jillam]

I am the daughter of John Hayden Morton Sooley, his father Frank Edward Morton Sooley was born in 1901 in Elm and his father was Frank Morton Sooley born in 1871. I am just starting to look into the family history for my Dad and it looks like we have a common ancestor.|help|

[karen43]

Hi.
I am so pleased to hear from you.
I am sure we are from the same tree although I will have to have a look back through my records to be sure.Do you still live nearby?I have been trying to get to speak to anyone who still lives close by.If you would like to speak to me my telephone number is 01553 760834.It is quicker than email!!! I do know there is a George Morton ooley stil living around the Wisbeach area whom is my dads cousin and I believe he is related to you.Hope to hea from you soon.Karen.xx