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Paul Larken
23-08-2007, 09:44 AM
undefinedCould someone who has access to Pallot's Marraige Index kindly look-up an entry for me please? I'm trying to find the marraige of John LARKEN to Frances (Fanny) sometime between 1780 & 1795. John was a resident of Hertfordshire,Puckeridge or Braughing area. Any help gratefully recieved.
Peter Goodey
23-08-2007, 10:32 AM
Didn't spot it on Pallots but Pallots is of limited use outside London.
Other resources that might be worth trying:-
Boyds (online via Origins)
Phillimore (CD)
Allen's Herts Marriage Index (I think the Mormons have filmed it but haven't bothered to check)
birdlip
23-08-2007, 12:48 PM
Hi there,
I had a look on Batch Numbers for Braughing and found the following, which you probably already have;
Susannah Larken m John Slingsby 08 May 1780, possibly a sibling of Johns?
There are Larken/Larking/Larkin marriages in Standon, Furneaux Pelham and Aspenden, but they're all too early. None at Westmill or Albury. However, given that William Wright Larken, b Braughing 1796, is a child of John and Fanny/Frances; I would think this marriage is a strong possibility;
Jn Larkin or Larden m Frances Wright, 13 Jan 1784 Luton, Beds.
Luton is only about 15 miles away, and was possibly Fannys parish. What do you think?
regards, Birdlip
Paul Larken
28-08-2007, 07:10 PM
Birdlip - Some great information thank you. I had an Ann Larken as a sibling of John guess this could be Susannah or maybe she is a new sibling. Where did you get the information about William Wright Larken being the Son of Jon and Fanny?
Paul.
birdlip
29-08-2007, 03:51 AM
I'm pleased that was helpful, wasn't sure if it might 've been info you already had.
Sorry, I should have said; William Wright Larkens birth and the Larkin/ Wright marriage are both on IGI ( Family Search) Both have been listed from the Parish Registers, rather than from personal contributions, so should be accurate. Its always good to confirm them though, as I'm sure you know, if/when you get a chance to look at the originals. Also, the original entry can often have extra details. Good luck...let us know how you get on.
Regards, Birdlip
Paul Larken
29-08-2007, 09:08 PM
Birdlip - Thanks once again. The reason for my question is that I believed William was the son of John and Fanny but had not found the supporting documentation. I'm planning a visit to the Hertfordshire Records office this weekend, so you have helped me tremendously. One last question do you have the Parish details and reference numbers associated with the entries.
I’ll let you know how my visit went and if there is anything a I may do in return please ask.
Paul.
birdlip
30-08-2007, 01:49 AM
William Wright Larken
Christening: 31 JUL 1796 Braughing, Hertford, England
Father: John Larken
Mother: Fanny
Batch No: C072192
Dates:1563-1812
Source Call No: 0991368
Type: Film
Printout Call No: 6901036
Type: Film
Jn Larkin or Larden
Marriage: 13 JAN 1784 Luton, Bedford, England
Spouse: Frances Wright
Batch No: M016751
Dates: 1602-1812
Source Call No: 0908073
Type: Film
Printout Call No: 6901036
Type: Film
Neither entry gives the name of the church, but they are not just member submitted, because they have a batch number. With Williams christening, it would have to have been at the parish church, because the batch dates, 1563-1812, are too early for Braughing Independent, which in any case has a different Batch number. I looked it up, it's St Mary the Virgin.
The same with the marriage at Luton, though there will be more churches there. I haven't looked it up, but it will be the original parish church, because the batch dates start in 1602.
Good hunting, regards birdlip
Peter Goodey
30-08-2007, 09:26 AM
Paul
You can find the source of an IGI entry by clicking the "Source Call No."
The Luton entry comes from a printed book not direct from the parish registers. A transcript of a transcript. You may feel that there's twice as much scope for mistakes!
The Braughin entry is more straightforward and derives from the parish registers of Parish Church of Braughin. By the way, that title is usually enough - you may well find that that's the way the record office catalogues it. The dedication is only needed to avoid ambiguity, say in a larger town where there is more than one church.
By the way, in genealogy-speak "parish church" in England always implies Church of England.
If you're going to Herts RO, you may find this useful, if you haven't already tracked it down -
http://www.hertsdirect.org/infobase/docs/pdfstore/parishregs.pdf
birdlip
30-08-2007, 09:42 AM
Ah...
I didn't know that about the Source Call numbers, that makes it much easier, thankyou Peter.
regards, birdlip
Paul Larken
31-08-2007, 09:03 PM
Birdlip & Peter,
Thank you both very much for your kind help, I'm back a further generation and have a number of things to follow-up. If you don't mind I may well come back with further questions once I've visited Herts this weekend. :)
Paul Larken
03-09-2007, 07:16 PM
Birdlip - Visited Hertford at the weekend and manage to find out quite a lot more about John Larken. I also found his home a large manor house on the outskirts of Braughing and was kindly shown around it by the present owners. Found his grave at the local church along with his father and mother and other realtives. Unfortunately couldn't find his wife fanny at the church yard and have not been able to find out anything about her to date; I'll follow-up your possible lead with Luton later. One quick question you mention Braughing Independent, was that a newspaper? Sorry if this turns out to be a dumb question.
Regards,
Paul.
birdlip
04-09-2007, 02:55 AM
Hi Paul,
sounds like you had a great weekend! What luck about the house..to be able to see where they lived, it always makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck. To answer your question, no, the independent was a church.
regards, birdlip
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