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slewis
14-12-2006, 2:46 PM
Hi
I an looking for help with Edwin Hubert Povah, he was born 1856 in St Savior London, Middlesex, father was Rev Alfred Povah born 1824 Hackney mother Mary Ann Swain, nee Willson born abt 1818 Stockport, Lancashire.
I know Edwin was married in Coburg, Ontario. Canada, to Ida Ann Roberta Godardon the 1 june 1886, what i don't know is when he emigrated to Canada, and what happend to him then, Can any one please help me i would really appreciate it.
Regards Sue
DebbieAnn
15-12-2006, 12:04 AM
Found the marriage - it shows his age as 29, hers as 22, her name looks like Ida Ann Roberts Godard on the original, her parents are Adolphus W. Godard and Ann Churley Godard. She was born in Canada. They were both Church of England. Were married in Cobourg, Northumberland, Ontario, Canada on 1 June 1886. Their daughter, Sybie (Sylvie?) Povah, married Henry A. Preston on 5 Feb 1909 in Windsor, Essex, Ontario, Canada. Her residence is given as Detroit, Michigan. She is 22, he is 24. Both are Episcopalian (CofE) So, it looks as if they moved to the Detroit area from Ontario.

Debbie
DebbieAnn
15-12-2006, 12:12 AM
Ida A R Povah, age 83, is shown crossing from Windsor to Detroit on 29 Aug 1947. Her birth date is given as 2 Mar 1864. She was born in St. Johns, New Brunswick, Canada.

Debbie
DebbieAnn
15-12-2006, 12:23 AM
In the 1900 census, they were all living in Detroit, Wayne County, Michigan, USA. Edwin was born Oct 1857 in England. They moved to the US in 1888. Ida, born Mar 1864, had 4 children at this point. Sybil A. W. was born in Canada in Jan 1887.Alfred H. W. was born in Michigan in Mar 1889. Douglas A. C. was born in Aug 1890 in Michigan. And Phyllis S. was born in Jul 1893 in Michigan.

Debbie
DebbieAnn
15-12-2006, 12:28 AM
In 1910 census, Ida is a widow and listed as head of household, so Edwin must have died between 1900 and 1910 in Detroit. She has 3 youngest children with her, remember Sybil married the previous year just across the border.

Debbie
DebbieAnn
15-12-2006, 12:34 AM
In 1920, Ida is still in Detroit. She has only Douglas with her - he is a broker of stocks and bonds (his father had been an insurance agent).

Debbie
DebbieAnn
15-12-2006, 12:47 AM
Edwin was still living in England with his parents in the 1881 census, so he emigrated to Canada between 1881 and 1886.

Debbie
DebbieAnn
15-12-2006, 2:01 PM
Alfred H. Povah, the son of Edwin and Ida, was born on 25 Mar 1889 and died on 1 Apr 1975 in Ann Arbor, Washtenaw County, Michigan, USA. He lived in Highland Park, Wayne County, Michigan - just outside Detroit. If you were to send to the vital statistics office in Michigan, or search obituaries in the newspapers for that date, you may find the names of spouses, children, etc.

Debbie
DebbieAnn
15-12-2006, 2:12 PM
In 1930, Douglas (age 32) is living in Detroit with his wife Vera T. (age 33) and their 3 daughters Roberta J. and Marian T. (both age 8), and Nancy Ann (age 7). He is still a stockbroker.

Debbie
DebbieAnn
15-12-2006, 2:31 PM
Vera Povah, Douglas' wife, was born on 21 Dec 1886 and died in Nov 1973 in Birmingham, Oakland County, Michigan, USA.

Debbie
DebbieAnn
15-12-2006, 2:50 PM
Mr. Douglas A. Povah was in the Detroit Social Register and lived at 96 Gladstone Avenue, Detroit. He was a member of the Oakland Hills Country Club.

Also in the social register were: Mrs. Edwin Hubert (Godard) Povah, of 218 Lincoln Avenue, and Mr. Alfred Hubert Povah, and Miss Phyllis S. Povah.

Debbie
DebbieAnn
15-12-2006, 2:54 PM
In 1896, Edwin Hubert Povah, an agent with P.F.Collier, lived at 727 4th Ave, Detroit.

Debbie
DebbieAnn
15-12-2006, 2:57 PM
In 1915 and 1916, Alfred H. W. Povah worked at the University of Michigan, and boarded at 407 Liberty E., Ann Arbor, Michigan.

Debbie
DebbieAnn
15-12-2006, 3:22 PM
There is a Phyllis Povah who worked as an actress - at least she is listed as playing a character in the movie "The Women" in a newspaper article in Ironwood, Michigan in 1939-40, starring Norma Shearer and Rosalind Russell. Perhaps she is the same Phyllis that is Edwin and Ida's daughter?

Debbie
slewis
15-12-2006, 3:46 PM
Hi Debbie
Areally big thankyou for all this information its great.
Thanks so much Sue
DebbieAnn
15-12-2006, 4:12 PM
Just found Phyllis' death - she was born on 21 July 1893 and died on 7 Aug 1975 in Port Washington, Nassau, New York. She lived for a time in Pennsylvania (before 1951) as her Social Security Number was issued there. Either she never married, or continued to be known by her maiden name.

Debbie
DebbieAnn
15-12-2006, 4:19 PM
Phyllis was indeed the actress, daughter of Edwin and Ida! see: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0693910/ for a biographical history of her work!

Debbie
slewis
16-12-2006, 2:23 PM
Hi Debbie
Thankyou again for your time and help this informasion is great and will be a big help to me.
Have a merry Christmas regards Sue
gayna
05-09-2008, 11:47 AM
Hi
I an looking for help with Edwin Hubert Povah, he was born 1856 in St Savior London, Middlesex, father was Rev Alfred Povah born 1824 Hackney mother Mary Ann Swain, nee Willson born abt 1818 Stockport, Lancashire.
I know Edwin was married in Coburg, Ontario. Canada, to Ida Ann Roberta Godardon the 1 june 1886, what i don't know is when he emigrated to Canada, and what happend to him then, Can any one please help me i would really appreciate it.
Regards Sue

Hello Sue,

I know this is ages ago so hope you are still there??
Your Mary Ann SWAIN nee WILLSON intrigues me:)
My grandmother was a Janet WILSON 1879 Stockport and she married a Henry SWAIN 1871 Liverpool.
Janet's father was William Noah WILSON 1842 Manchester
Any connection?
Regards
Gayna