Abel family, Neston

[Cymraes38]

Hi folks.
I have traced back to a Hugh Abel, who was born in Neston in 1832.
I cannot get back any further than this, could anyone help, please?
He was living in Oldham with his wife and family in 1881 census.
I am a newbie and would be delighted to get some help,
Thanks

[eileenb]

Hi there

Is this your family in 1871 census?
RG10/4102 162 21
4 Court? Bardsley St, Oldham

Hugh Abel Head Married 39 Coalminer born Little Neston Cheshire.
Catherine Abel Wife Married 34 born Ashton Lancs
Thomas Abel Son 14 Cotton Piecer born Staffs N. K.
Jane Abel Daur 12 Scholar born St Helens Lancs
Ellen Abel Daur 10 Scholar born St Helens Lancs
Elizabeth Abel Daur 8 Scholar born St Helens Lancs
Ann Abel Daur 6 born St Helens Lancs
Abraham Abel 3 Daur? born St Helens Lancs

I haven't checked the 1891 so shout if you need the details
Eileen

[Di&Trev]

In 1901 census the family are living at 268 Lees Rd,
Abraham Abel 32 Oldham, Lancashire, England Son Oldham -Iron turner/fitter
Catherine Abel 68 Kilkenny, Ireland Wife Oldham
Eliza Abel 25 Oldham, Lancashire, England Daughter Oldham - Housekeeper
Hugh Abel 68 Neston, Cheshire, England Head Oldham - Coal Hewer
James Mason Abel 23 Skelmasdale, Lancashire, England Son Oldham - Grocers assistant
Jane Abel 41 Dukinfield, Cheshire, England Daughter Oldham - Weaver
Lizzie Abel 37 St Helens, Lancashire, England Daughter Oldham - Weaver
Ecclesiatical parish: Glodwick Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire

In 1891 census living at 152 Balfour St, Clarksfield. Oldham.
Abel, Abraham 22 Oldham, Lancashire Son Oldham Iron Turner
Abel, Catherine 58 IRL Wife Oldham No occupation
Abel, Eliza 17 Oldham, Lancashire Daughter Oldham
Abel, Elizabeth 27 St Helens, Lancashire Daughter Oldham
Abel, Ellen 29 St Helens, Lancashire Daughter Oldham
Abel, Hugh 58 Neston, Cheshire Head Oldham Coal Miner
Abel, James 13 Skelmersdale, Lancashire Son Oldham
Abel, Jane 31 Dukinfield, Cheshire Daughter Oldham
All the rest are Cotton Weavers.

Was there a daughter of Hugh born approx 1856 named Ann. Cos if so
There is a Ann Abel in the 1871 census living with her grandparents aged 15. Family living at 46 Holland Street, Ancoats, Manchester.
Hugh Abel aged 72. Born in G/Neston (1799?)
Wife Sarah aged 69. Gt Neston.
G/Daughter Ann aged 15 born in Liverpool.

Hope all this helps

[Geoffers]

Hi folks.
I have traced back to a Hugh Abel, who was born in Neston in 1832.
I cannot get back any further than this, could anyone help, please?
He was living in Oldham with his wife and family in 1881 census.
I am a newbie and would be delighted to get some help,
Thanks
Prior to 1837 and the introduction of civil rgistration, the main way of tracing the skeleton of a family history is through parish registers.

These are usually available in County Record Offices - if you cannot get to to the one you need, then they often either sell copies on fiches or photocopies of entries. Family History Societies sometimes produce transcripts of registers and none of these are feasible, then the mormon church (LDS) has record centres where you can hire copies of registers on microfilm.

I would also suggest trying the 1841 census for Little Neston and surrounding parishes, to see exactly how common the surname ABEL was locally, and also to see if you can pick up any households containing a Hugh ABEL.

The 1841 census contains less detail that later census returns, just name, age (for those over 15 this is usually rounded down to the nearest 5 years), occupation, whether born in county, and some disabilities are noted. But, if you can find a housegold with Hugh ABEL in it, this may well include his parent(s) and sibling(s) and give you a rough idea of ages and so you can narrow down when to look for a marriage of parents.

You might then also try the 1851 census to again see whether many of the ABEL family were still in the area. The advantage of this census is that 'exact' ages are recorded (well they're susually roughly correct) and also places of birth. If you can find some ABELs born in the late 18th century you may be able to pick out whether the family had moved to Litle Neston from another parish.



Geoffers

[Cymraes38]

Hello again,
Thank you all for being so helpful.

[Wirral]

There are a number of Abels listed on www.cheshirebmd.org.uk . It includes a Hugh Abel married to Catharine Roylance 1856-1860 at St Michael, Ashton under Lyne and a Hugh Abel married to Sarah Nixon 1861-1865 at St Elphin, Warrington.
There used to be coal mines at Neston, Ashton under Lyne, Warrington & St Helens. All long gone now.

[IanN]

I'm not clear whether you got my recent mail re:Abel ancestors (as colliers) in Neston but I have information that you may find useful. Please contact
norris@nesswirral.wanadoo.co.uk
Ian Norris 30 April 2005

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RG 9 2994 folio 101 sch 117
Combemere St, Dukinfield (St John's)
Hugh ABEL.H..M..24 or 26..Miner Coal..CHS,Neston
Catherine..W..M..26..Ireland
Thomas..S..3..Staffs,?hel
Jane..D..18ms..Dukinfield

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[Cymraes38]

Thank you to all who have replied. I am sure now that this is indeed the family I want. However, I would love to know more of Hugh's ancestry. If anyone could point me in the right direction to find his parents, or even further back, I would be delighted,
Thanks, cymraes38

[uksearch]

I have just realised that the PRs for Neston are here.I take at look at them to see if I can find Hugh ABEL's baptism.

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[Bonnie]

Hi,

I am also researching the Abel Family from Neston, mine is Hugh Abel born 1842 Liverpool, Father Hugh Abel Shoemaker born Gt Neston 1799, Mother Sarah also born Neston.

Hugh Abel married Sarah Nixon at Warrington 1865, they then settled in Garston Liverpool.

I think your Hugh and mine must be related as the name Hugh goes right through the Family.

Regards Bonnie.

[uksearch]

Baptisms Solemnized in the Parish of Neston in the County of Chester

1st June 1832 Hugh son of Thomas & Ellen ABEL.Ness.Collier.
29th Feb 1834 Jane dau of Thomas & Ellen ABEL.Ness.Collier.
4th Sept 1836 Nancy dau of Thomas & Ellen ABEL.Ness.Collier
8th Mar 1839 Mary dau of Thomas & Ellen ABEL.New Houses,Ness.Collier.


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