does anyone know james

[jemimaellen]

hi im looking for a james gregory born between 1835 and 1841 i can find no trace of james on any census untill he married sarah reeves on 22nd dec 1861 i can find him on 1871 with his family i have his marriage and death certificate on his marriage certificate it says his father is john gregory police officer james children are matilda b1862 rebecca 1864 sarah 1865 david james 1867 rosannah 1869 harry 1871 albert 1876 and john 1879 i would love to know who james mother is she is my g.g.grandmother there is also no sign of a john gregory who is a police officer on any census can anyone out there help please

[Geoffers]

I wouldn't necessarily look for a John GREGORY who was a policeman in 1851/61 - assuming that you have a birthplace for James from 1871, I suggest searching for other GREGORYs born or living in the same area to try and build up a picture of how extensive the name was. James' dad may have had a different occupation at the time of census returns, he may have had another forename under which he was recorded - could he have been for example Thomas John and been known as Thomas in one return and John in the next (it happened)

Have you found any James GREGORYs in the 1851 census? Are any of them anywhere near to the birthplace given in 1871?

James is often abbreviated to 'Jas', which can easily be mistaken for 'Jos' (short for Joseph) - failure to locaet him may just be down to poor indexing.

Where was John living at time of marriage and where was he born? Who were the witnesses - any relatives?

Geoffers

[jemimaellen]

hi thanx for reply james was born in warwickshire as far as i know the wittnesses on mariage certificate are an elizabeth fessey? and george humphreys george was sarah reeves stepfather sarahs father was david reeves he died in 1847 but is not listed as deceased on mariage certificate james was living in swallow/swollow st parish of st phillips in aston birmingham at time of marriage the only john gregory who was a police officer on 1841 census was in mid lothian scotland but as you say he may not have been a police officer when james was born is there a way i can do a street search on any site to see if any gregorys live in swallow/swollow st also i cannot find many james with father john on any cenus

[Geoffers]

is there a way i can do a street search on any site to see if any gregorys live in swallow/swollow st also i cannot find many james with father john on any cenusI don't know about Ancestry because I don't use it, but with 1837 online it is possible to search the 1861 census by address and I believe a similar facility exists for S+N's site


i cannot find many james with father john on any cenus
It may be that he was not with his father in ealier census returns, another thought that occurs is that a transcriber may have recorded your chap as John Gregory and with another surname. I have known it to happen that the last obvious surname was ascribed to a chap called Thomas James, where James should have been recorded as his surname.

Geoffers

[jemimaellen]

hi my james gave his address as swallow st so i went on 1837 online and went though all address in swalow street and no gregorys at all i know it says that on some censuses pages were missing but as i carnt find james on 41-51-61 cenus i have no other i deas i went to library and looked for marriages around the time james married to se if any siblings had married but nothing no birth for him either or any gregorys around that time with father john