Youds family of West Kirby / Neston area

[sallyedwards]

Hi All,

I have Sarah Youds ABT 1825 of Great Meolse, Cheshire who married William Halliday 1817, also of Great Meolse. From the census returns I have the following information about her parents:

1841 England Census - enumerator rounding up or down to the nearest 5. Neston, Wirral

Jos'h Youds 35 abt 1806 Cheshire, England Neston Cheshire Slater
Catherine Youds 35 abt 1806 Cheshire, England Neston Cheshire
Sarah Youds 15 abt 1826 Neston Cheshire (not born in Neston)
Willm Youds 8 abt 1833 Cheshire, England Neston Cheshire
Ellen Youds 4 abt 1837 Cheshire, England Neston Cheshire
__________________________________________________ _______________
1851 England Census - Neston

Joseph Youds 49 abt 1802 Neston, Cheshire, England Head Neston Cheshire - Slater & Plasterer / shopkeeper
Catherine Youds 48 abt 1803 Wales Wife Neston Cheshire
Sarah Youds 25 abt 1826 Neston, Cheshire, England Daughter Neston Cheshire Shopwoman
Ellen E Youds 10 abt 1841 Neston, Cheshire, England Daughter Neston Cheshire
Catherine Williams 9 abt 1842 Wales Niece Neston Cheshire
Charles Pyke 19 abt 1832 Neston, Cheshire, England Lodger Neston Cheshire
__________________________________________________ _______________
1861 England Census - Neston

Joseph Youds 59 abt 1802 Neston, Cheshire, England Head Neston Cheshire Slater & Plasterer
Catherine Youds 58 abt 1803 Rhydland, Flintshire, Wales Wife Neston Cheshire
Sarah Youds 35 abt 1826 Neston, Cheshire, England Daughter Neston Cheshire
Ellen E Youds 24 abt 1837 Neston, Cheshire, England Daughter Neston Cheshire
__________________________________________________ _______________
Deaths Jun 1871
Youds Joseph 69 Wirral 8a 252



Is anybody else researching the same family? Sarah remarried a John Langley after the death of William Halliday.

I would love to find the marriage information for Joseph Youds and Catherine of Rhydland, Wales. I have an IGI that fits, but no real evidence.

IGI Individual Record
JOSEPH YOUDS
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: CATHERINE HUGHES Family
Marriage:
26 OCT 1824
Catherine Williams 9 abt 1842 Wales Niece Neston Cheshire
Charles Pyke 19 abt 1832 Neston, Cheshire, England Lodger Neston Cheshire
__________________________________________________ _______________
1861 England Census - Neston

Joseph Youds 59 abt 1802 Neston, Cheshire, England Head Neston Cheshire Slater & Plasterer
Catherine Youds 58 abt 1803 Rhydland, Flintshire, Wales Wife Neston Cheshire
Sarah Youds 35 abt 1826 Neston, Cheshire, England Daughter Neston Cheshire
Ellen E Youds 24 abt 1837 Neston, Cheshire, England Daughter Neston Cheshire
__________________________________________________ _______________
Deaths Jun 1871
Youds Joseph 69 Wirral 8a 252



Is anybody else researching the same family? Sarah remarried a John Langley after the death of William Halliday.

I would love to find the marriage information for Joseph Youds and Catherine of Rhydland, Wales. I have an IGI that fits, but no real evidence.

IGI Individual Record
JOSEPH YOUDS
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: CATHERINE HUGHES Family
Marriage:
26 OCT 1824 Neston, Cheshire, England

Messages:
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Source Information:
Batch Number: 7428704
Sheet: 21
Source Call No.: 0935200 Type: Film

Any hints on where to go to find that marriage? I live in Dubai, but will have 2 weeks in the UK in early July to try to do some research.....

Cheers,
Sally

[sallyedwards]

Apologies for the repeat information - I tried to edit, but it just got worse!

Cheers,
Sally

[Wirral]

Hi Sally

I think there may be more than one Sarah Youds here. In the 1861 census there is a Sarah (30?, age hard to read, born Irby) who is married to William Halliday (44, born Great Meols), living with him & daughters Sarah 6 & Ellen 3 (both born Great Meols) at Great Meols. In the same census there is an unmarried Sarah Youds (35, born Neston), who is living with her parents Joseph & Catherine in Neston.
In the 1851 census, Sarah Halliday is living with William at Great Meoles & gives her place of birth as Woodchurch. www.cheshirebmd.org.uk (http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk) lists the marriage of William Holliday & Sarah Youds in 1845 at Holy Cross, Woodchurch.

[Wirral]

Your Sarah Youds is probably the daughter of Robert. From the 1851 census:

Ho107/2174 folio 111, page 14, Irby, Woodchurch parish, Cheshire
Robert Youds, head, M, 60 Ag lab, born Cheshire, West Kirby
Mary Youds, wife, M, 60, Cheshire, West Kirby
Robert Youds, son, U, 29, Ag lab, Cheshire, Irby
Ann Halliday, grand-dau, 6, Cheshire, Irby

Do you have copies of the marriage certificates for Sarah to William Halliday & to John Langley?

[sallyedwards]

I think you have hit the nail on the head!

Excellent, so Robert Youds, not Joseph Youds. I'm glad you put me right on that one before I went searching for marriage information. Ann Halliday makes it pretty convincing.

No, I don't have the marriage certificate yet, I have the information ready to send off as soon as I hit English soil.

Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1845
YOUDS Sarah HOLLIDAY William Woodchurch, Holy Cross Wirral BK21/1/31

The IGI has many errors with this family - the children from her first marriage are all listed with John Langley as the father - unless the person who provided the data knew something scandalous!

Thanks so much for your time and effort,
Cheers,
Sally

[Wirral]

Hi Sally

Hang on for a little before ordering the marriage certificate. I'm taking a walk up to Wallasey library after tea & will see if they have any info. The marriage of Sarah Halliday & John Langley was in 1876 at St Nicholas, Liverpool, but Liverpool library is on its annual 2 week shut-down for maintenance, so it is not possible to view the church registers there at the moment.

[sallyedwards]

That would be superb - I just checked Bertram Merrell - no Robert Youds at all on there.

I travel to England next Tuesday, so I am in no hurry to send anything off. I am just heading into ancestry for a further check on the Youds in Irby....

Thanks again,
Sally

[Wirral]

Hi Sally

As my car is working again (blinking indicators - or rather not!), I managed to go to both Wallasey & Birkenhead libraries. Wallasey has a number of booklets of transcriptions of gravestones from local graveyards on the Wirral, courtesy of West Kirby & Wallasey Groups Family History Societies. They have done the hard work, tramping round the cemeteries. I have just handwritten out the YOUDS & HALLIDAY data (nb only found one HALLIDAY) from Holy Cross, Woodchurch & St Batholomew, Thurstaston. These cover 3 pages of A4 & as I am not a fast typist I can send you a photo of my notes if you want them. Can also send the copy of the marriage (to William Holliday in 1845 at Holy Cross, Woodchurch) & baptism of Sarah Youds (in 1827 at St Bartholomew, Thurstaston).

[sallyedwards]

That is fantastic - I'd love a copy / photo / whatever of anything you have found. You are so kind!

You can send anything to my "online" email address - sallyedwards@hotmail.com

I really don't know what to say - you have saved me a big journey and lots of time. I'm rendered speechless (almost!)

Many, many, many thanks,
Sally