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petehoward
02-05-2006, 04:45 PM
I am new to this forum and I am seeking anyone who has access to archives of The Times Newsapaper, with a view to obtaining a copy.
I have been given the reference from Palmers Index for the article which is from 25 Oct 1873 page 11 col. e and reads 'Police Haviland, Mary Elizabeth, for cutting and wounding'
I am intrigued what happened next!
Thanks for any assistance - Pete
hope full
02-05-2006, 05:54 PM
Here you go........
At Clerkenwell, Mary Elizabeth Haviland, about 30 years of age, was charged before Mr. Hannay with cutting and wounding Elizabeth Sarah Haviland, with intent,&c., and further with attempting to commit suicide. It appeared from the evidence of Police-constable Moore,53G, that on the evening of the 28th nlt, he was called to the house wherin the prisoner lodged, in Upper Rosoman
street, Clerkenwell, and in a first-floor back room he found the prisoner lying on a bed with a severe wound on the left arm across the main artery. She had bled profusely. At the head of the bed a child of about three years of age was lying. It also had a wound on the arm, but above the elbow. Close beside it was a knife covered in blood. The prisoner, while the constable attending her, used some expressions indicating that she had left two children for her husband to take care of, and was sorry she had not killed them all. A doctor was sent for, under whose directions the prisoner and the child were removed to the Royal Free Hospital, Grays-inn-road. The child was the prisoner's daughter, and was named Elizabeth Sarah. Mr William Rechite, one of the house surgeons at the hospital, deposed to having attended the prisoner and the injured child. The former was suffering from an incised wound on the left arm, nearly an inch deep. She had become insensible from loss of blood. The child was in nearly a similar state, the injury to the arm being very serious. The wound, which in the opinion of the witness, was caused by the knife produced, or other sharp instrument,divided the joint of the child's left arm and nearly severed the limb. It had since become necessary to amputate it.The prisoner was at the time suffering from puerperal mania, and was not yet responsible for her actions. In reply to Mr. Hannay the witness added that, in his opinion, she was decidedly insane. The prisoner, who appeared very weak and ill, said nothing when cautioned,and was fully committed to Newgate for trial at the Central Criminal Court.
Hope
Jo Simpsons
02-05-2006, 06:02 PM
Oh gosh! I have just read the story, how sad it is.
You can join the Bedfordshire Library for free and from there access the Times Archive. If you go to
http://www.galaxy.bedfordshire.gov.uk/cgi-bin/vlib.sh?enqtype=REGISTER
Join the Library with online mebership. You will be given a number and a pin number. You must keep that to get on.
In the search I just put "police" and the date you gave.
Jo :)
Jo Simpsons
02-05-2006, 06:03 PM
Oh well done Hope for typing all that out!
Jo :)
petehoward
02-05-2006, 06:24 PM
Thanks to you Hope for the typed report - Well I never!
The husband of Mary Elizabeth Haviland was my wife's great grandfather, Richard Haviland. He later remarried and had a happier marriage in which my wife's grandmother was born. Richard Haviland's ancestry is well documented back to 1415 and the Haviland's of Guernsey.
Apparently the child Sarah Elizabeth (born 1870) shows up in censuses as an inmate/patient of Broadmoor Asylum, Sandhurst, Kent. She was instituionalised untill her death in 1965 at the age 0f 95. Not a very happy life.
It just shows what gets turned up!
Thanks also to Jo for the tip.
Regards Pete
petehoward
03-05-2006, 11:10 AM
Thanks to all who pointed me to the article relating to the arrest of Mary Haviland. The item ended saying she would go to trial at the Central Criminal Court (Old Bailey) for trial probably some time after October 1873.
It would be interesting to know the details of the trial or outcome.
Any ideas or assistance would be appreciated - as a newcomer I need to get used to the operation of this site!
Many thanks in advance Peter
Ron Leech
04-05-2006, 12:37 AM
I don't know if they cover this period but many Old Bailey trials are available on the web, Google for Old Bailey that should find the site.
Ladkyis
04-05-2006, 02:10 AM
The old bailey thingy goes from 1674 to 1834
http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/
It is one of those places I am not allowed without a responsible adult because I spend far too much time putting in family names and then reading the cases in the faint hope that one of them might be related to my lot and I might at last find that black sheep
Ann
petehoward
04-05-2006, 11:27 AM
Thanks again for the advice, it looks as though we will have to wait until the trial documents to be digitised, It is like waiting for a new TV series to come out!
Many thanks to all who helped, I will now look at the ancestral trail of the Havilands which goes back through to Gloucester and Poole, Dorset then to Guernsey in the 1400's. plenty to go at and some nice places to visit.
Keep up the good work.
Regards - Peter
Colin Moretti
05-05-2006, 12:43 AM
If you can get to TNA at Kew you can read the Old Bailey Sessions papers in Series PCOM 1, these are printed notes of the proceedings. PCOM 1/105 covers the period from November 1873 to April 1874. You can read more about the records in this TNA information leaflet:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/rdleaflet.asp?sLeafletID=172
Good luck,
Colin
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