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Jo Simpsons
29-10-2004, 05:46 PM
This is a lovely web site to read about Victorian Life Style too much to start listing what information is on there.
http://www.geocities.com/victorianlace10/home.html
No jobs will get done once you start reading :D
Jo
Linda
29-10-2004, 08:57 PM
Thanks Jo for the link - The site is temporarily unavailable, "to be restored within an hour" :mad:
Hmmm....I guess that means I should get some jobs done right now. :(
Linda
Jo Simpsons
29-10-2004, 09:49 PM
You know that does happen, I think it must be very popular. Should be ok soon, worth waiting for :)
Best thing run round like an idiot and pretend you have done it all day. Sit down and enjoy :D Better than a Galaxy bar. LOL :D Only if you like that sort of thing.
Jo :)
tony vines
10-11-2004, 01:09 AM
BEWARE
I've tried this interesting sounding link twice now on different days. The first time it didn't respond. The second time it half appeared then froze my PC. On using the End Task routine it also took me out of my browser.
My browser is Mozilla Firefox which works well on every other site I've tried since switching to use it about 2 months ago but I cannot say for certain whether the annoying failures above are site related or browser related.
A pity but I guess that it's saved me time from the remarks above
Tony
Jo Simpsons
10-11-2004, 01:17 AM
Hi Tony,
I'm sorry you have had problems with the link I put. I wouldn't put a dodgy thing though. If you trust me you could try
http://www.geocities.com/victorianlace10/
and then click on the enter.
I have just tried the other link and this one and got on each time. But I have to go to bed and any more I will keep looking for more!
Please say if you manage or not
Jo :)
Procat
10-11-2004, 09:59 AM
Hi Tony,
I'm sorry you have had problems with the link I put. I wouldn't put a dodgy thing though. If you trust me you could try
http://www.geocities.com/victorianlace10/
and then click on the enter.
I have just tried the other link and this one and got on each time. But I have to go to bed and any more I will keep looking for more!
Please say if you manage or not
Jo :)
Hi Tony,
I am using Firefox and this link woked for me with out problems.
Regards,
tony vines
10-11-2004, 09:55 PM
Hi Jo
I tried the new link and it opened the home page which then froze my PC again. I guess that it must be some conflict between my browser settings and this site although I've not had the problem before.
It was not a matter of trust (genealogists are very trustworthy!) just frustration that I can't view the site. I'll try anothere route sometime but thanks for your response anyway.
Regards
Tony
Ladkyis
10-11-2004, 11:32 PM
It told me I needed to download some other software to view the site. sorry but if I have to add software to my puter I want to know what it does before I download it so I said no and it just let me carry on as normal, very odd. Perhaps you have previous edition of whatever I needed and that is freezing up your puter Tony.
Ann
tony vines
11-11-2004, 12:09 AM
Ann
I'm with you. If they can't write these things using standard software recognisable by the main browsers (albeit that Mozilla is not mainstream) they are bound to put people off. Shame because the subject matter could be interesting (unless of course it's all girly stuff - I have to say that to protect my manly image! :D).
One of my enthusiasms for genealogy is that it helps me to understand the times my ancestors lived in so sites on the subject of those eras are always welcome. The Victorian Web is another site worth looking at for potted knowledge of those years.
Regards
Tony
Jo Simpsons
11-11-2004, 12:59 AM
I feel very bad about this :o
I haven't been asked to download anything or had problems other than try again later.
Jo
Jo Simpsons
11-11-2004, 01:05 AM
Just went on and it said to view properly download a chinese (traditional) text display support!
I didn't and got on the site ok though :confused:
I will and try and copt some things that are on.
Thanks for trusting me Tony :)
Jo
Jo Simpsons
11-11-2004, 01:09 AM
From the first page...
Often I have heard other people who share my interest for Victoriana proclaim that they sometimes feel that they were born in the wrong century, and I completely understand what they are saying. I am a lover of all things Victorian, from the rich diversity of Victorian styles to the incomparable glamour of a bygone era. While visiting my webpages, I hope that you will find something here that interests you, informs you, or delights you, and that perhaps this site will give you a small glimpse into the grace and beauty of "Yesteryear". . . .
Jo Simpsons
11-11-2004, 01:23 AM
I tried to copy and paste each section but it looked a mess and didn't seem right, so
1-Society and life style
2-Fashion and beauty
3-Victorian Weddings
4-Victorian Era Women
5-The littlest Vics (children of the victorian era)
6- Meanwhile out west
7-Victorian Era Health and Medicine
8-History
This is just the main sections, there are many pages to each section.
Jo Simpsons
11-11-2004, 01:24 AM
If words could not express my gratitude for the 2001 "Best Victorian Site Award" that the Victorian Ladies Society bestowed upon my website (displayed above), imagine how honored I feel now, in 2004, to receive their award once AGAIN!! (displayed below). To my utter surprise and extreme delight, the Victorian Ladies Society has selected my site as recipient of their illustrious "The Best Victorian Site Award" for this year, 2004, and I am thrilled beyond
words, and I am deeply honored that they found my site worthy!.
I display these awards with sincere appreciation!
Jo Simpsons
11-11-2004, 01:37 AM
I thought I should add, I have nothing to do with the site.
I just hope you can get on and enjoy because it is so very good.
Jo :)
tony vines
11-11-2004, 08:51 PM
Jo there really is no need to feel bad. These things happen. It's just as likely to be my browser which doesn't like the site. Anyway from your description of the site it's pretty girly stuff so perhaps I haven't missed much:)
Jo Simpsons
13-11-2004, 03:41 PM
Not all Girly, Tony! ;)
I emailed the lady who has done the site and have had a lovely reply from her.
This is what she said about not being able to get on sometimes and the problems some were getting.
"It's EXTREMELY frustrating for me, and I know that it's just a terrible pain for visitors to the site! ; I can't apologize enough for the inconvenience this causes, but I have no control over it. I use Geocities because they host my site for free, as long as I allow their advertisement to pop up in the corner when the page loads. Because I receive absolutely no financial income or support from my pages (they are completely for educational, informational and entertainment purposes), I could not otherwise afford to keep my site via a "paid host"."
"I hope that this clears up some of the issues regarding access to my site. I do know that it's frustrating sometimes to access the pages due to data transfer allotment, but please know that I have no coding on my site that should cause anyone to need some different software. I might understand that if, perhaps, the viewer lived in a non-English-speaking country, but other than that, I honestly don't understand why that would happen, and it certainly should never cause someone's computer to freeze up"
Hope it clears some things up
Jo:)
tony vines
13-11-2004, 07:30 PM
Jo
Thanks for your latest mail and the comments from the site owner. I just tried it again and its off the air with the message "exceeded the data input quota" or similar. It sounds like it's so full of goodies that the owner has exceeded her web space limit. Never mind I'll try again from time to time.
All the best
Tony
Jo Simpsons
13-11-2004, 08:01 PM
Nice to know you didn't give up on me :)
It isn't ALL girly you know and is extremely interesting. If you do manage to get on I would like to know what you thought. The message you have seen is because of the amount of people viewing, so you are missing out. LOL :D
Thanks for replying too. Take care.
Jo
Pam Downes
14-11-2004, 04:16 AM
And a thank you from me too, for this site Jo.
I've read the item about babies and wonder if anyone else could comment on something I noticed.
It said that young children would be sent to stay with relatives when the mother was pregnant and for some time after the birth of the baby. If so, this could be an explanation for all those children found staying with relatives on census records. But, do you think this would have applied only to the slightly higher classes or all the way through society right down to the ag labs and other unskilled workers?
Pam Downes
Pam Downes
Procat
14-11-2004, 04:25 AM
Hi Pam,
I have ag labourers where this appears to have happened though there seems to be no hard and fast rules.
I suspect it was more to do with availability and distance away of relatives outside the home, age of older children who could look after the younger children while Mum was close to and giving birth and so on.
Ladkyis
14-11-2004, 02:58 PM
It was the same with deaths, the children would be farmed out to neighbours and relatives while the deceased was laid out in the parlour. The menfolk would attend the burial while the women were left to grieve at home.
I can remember even in the 1950s we, the children of the street, were all taken to one of the bigger houses where there was a garden with fruit bushes and we all had to pick the fruit. It wasn't until I was eavesdropping on my parents later that night - as all children do - that I discovered that Dad had been to the funeral of my friend's big brother. We had wondered where he was!
Ann |shakehead
Pam Downes
15-11-2004, 12:00 AM
I have ag labourers where this appears to have happened though there seems to be no hard and fast rules.
I suspect it was more to do with availability and distance away of relatives outside the home, age of older children who could look after the younger children while Mum was close to and giving birth and so on.
Thanks Procat.
I have to say that I was quite surprised when I read that children were 'farmed out' when mum was pregnant as I'd always assumed that once the big 'uns reached the age of about 5 or 6 then they looked after the little 'uns.
As (to the best of my recall) I have yet to find any ancestor who had a servant I confess that I hadn't really thought about the lifestyles of the 'higher' classes.
Pam Downes
Pam Downes
15-11-2004, 12:17 AM
It was the same with deaths, the children would be farmed out to neighbours and relatives while the deceased was laid out in the parlour. The menfolk would attend the burial while the women were left to grieve at home.
I can remember even in the 1950s we, the children of the street, were all taken to one of the bigger houses where there was a garden with fruit bushes and we all had to pick the fruit. It wasn't until I was eavesdropping on my parents later that night - as all children do - that I discovered that Dad had been to the funeral of my friend's big brother. We had wondered where he was!
Ann |shakehead
I'm sorry Ann but I just have to ask which 'he' you're referring to in your final sentence. Please don't tell me that you mean your friend's brother.
Pam Downes
timelord
22-11-2004, 02:02 PM
not a bad site, but nothing about the moral double standards of men during the victorian period, or the child prostitution that was rife at the time. to name but two topics not mentioned
not a bad site, but nothing about the moral double standards of men during the victorian period, or the child prostitution that was rife at the time. to name but two topics not mentioned
I can't access the site but does it mention children being sent up chimneys to sweep them, child labour in the mills, the mind numbingly short life expectancy of the working classes, five families sharing a room.......
John
Ladkyis
24-11-2004, 03:22 PM
Sorry Pam but I do mean just that, we didn't know that her brother had died - she didn't know that her brother had died. Her parents must have told her fairly soon though, although they did take her away for a while to visit grandma in north Wales I think and when she came back she knew but that's how death and children were dealt with by some people
Ann
Pam Downes
26-11-2004, 12:47 PM
Hi Ann,
I suppose the grief of the parents blinded them to anything else at the time, especially given the attitude to life in general. Stiff-upper lip, not in front of the children, etc.
Even though life and attitudes today are very far from perfect it has to be a good thing that we are more open to children about subjects such as birth and death.
Though looking back to my childhood and reading some of the Victorian lifestyle, I'm sure that my childhood was closer to that of the Victorian with regards to attitude and upbringing - don't speak till you're spoken to, how you addressed your parents' friends, etc - than it is to the present day, even though the time lapse is much greater.
(And if I'd had a pound for everytime I was told 'look where you're going'....:D )
Pam Downes
Sheila Griffiths
29-11-2004, 08:34 AM
Wonderful site. A pleasure to look at and imagine how life was then.
I have been on this excellent site before and now it looks like a big success as it is busy at present. Must be a source of info for homework!
Phil
Ladkyis
03-12-2004, 12:33 AM
It could just be that everyone who reads this thread is going to the site and then telling people about it. It could be as a result of the BBC "Who do you think you are?" which is having a huge effect on the population. I read somewhere that the Scottish people website thingy has seen an increase of over 90% of users since the series started. If that's true every site with anything remotely family history oriented will be overwhelmed.
Ann
Jo Simpsons
05-02-2005, 12:03 AM
Have had an email from Victorian Dawn and she has said I can put it on here,
<DIV>"To all my wonderful friends and loyal members of the “Victorian Lace ~ Victorian Lifestyles: The Victorian Era” Update List:
Good morning to you all. I hope that this note finds you all well, and currently relishing in some aspect of Victoriana.
It is most definitely with a heavy heart and deep emotion that I write this email to you today, as it is sent to inform you that I plan to permanently close down my website. The website should be closed sometime this month or in March. This has been a wonderful six-year project for me, and I have completely enjoyed researching, writing and creating my site. It’s been especially well-received, and for that, I am grateful to all of you. I have received much support and numerous complimentary emails—too many to count! The positive recognition that I have received has been extremely amazing and grand. I have had the honor of being contacted by and working with the Smithsonian Institute on several of their research projects; I’ve been contacted to collaborate with the BBC; and my site is used as part of several regular school curriculums. I have given authorization for many of my pages to be mirrored onto various educational websites for this purpose. I am deeply moved that my website has been so applauded and well-thought of. I am still humbled and greatly appreciative of the accolades and awards I have received for the site.
Unfortunately, with the site becoming increasingly popular over this six-year span, it has reached a point whclose down my website. The website should be closed sometime this month or in March. This has been a wonderful six-year project for me, and I have completely enjoyed researching, writing and creating my site. It’s been especially well-received, and for that, I am grateful to all of you. I have received much support and numerous complimentary emails—too many to count! The positive recognition that I have received has been extremely amazing and grand. I have had the honor of being contacted by and working with the Smithsonian Institute on several of their research projects; I’ve been contacted to collaborate with the BBC; and my site is used as part of several regular school curriculums. I have given authorization for many of my pages to be mirrored onto various educational websites for this purpose. I am deeply moved that my website has been so applauded and well-thought of. I am still humbled and greatly appreciative of the accolades and awards I have received for the site.
Unfortunately, with the site becoming increasingly popular over this six-year span, it has reached a point where it is nearly impossible to even access it anymore, due to limited hourly data transfer, allocated by Geocities. This was not the slightest issue for the first three years that the site was open, and then Geocities changed their policies, setting a certain hourly allowance of data transfer. This occurred just about the time that my site really becoming well-known and coincided with it being frequently visited. For three years now, this has been an increasing problem and a great source of frustration for visitors to the site, as well as for me. It has reached a point where the pages are literally “off” more than they are “on”. I have been recently printing out all of my webpages because (vain as it might seem), I’ve put literally years of work into my pages, and I do want to have something of them to keep, before I permanently close the site. However, I found that when I might be able to access one page, as soon as I would click on the next, I receive the notification that the site is temporarily unavailable because I have exceeded my allocated ere it is nearly impossible to even access it anymore, due to limited hourly data transfer, allocated by Geocities. This was not the slightest issue for the first three years that the site was open, and then Geocities changed their policies, setting a certain hourly allowance of data transfer. This occurred just about the time that my site really becoming well-known and coincided with it being frequently visited. For three years now, this has been an increasing problem and a great source of frustration for visitors to the site, as well as for me. It has reached a point where the pages are literally “off” more than they are “on”. I have been recently printing out all of my webpages because (vain as it might seem), I’ve put literally years of work into my pages, and I do want to have something of them to keep, before I permanently close the site. However, I found that when I might be able to access one page, as soon as I would click on the next, I receive the notification that the site is temporarily unavailable because I have exceeded my allocated data transfer, and that it will be available in another hour. I would wait the hour, and have the exact same thing happen again. I KNOW this must be EXTREMELY frustrating for visitors to my pages, especially for those who are not just browsing, but are actually using the site for research material.
In addition to this source of utter frustration, I find that I simply can NOT keep up with the quantity of email that I receive daily. Please believe me when I say that I am NOT complaining about receiving such a large volume of email! It’s simply that I feel it is unfair to the authors of those emails because they are in search of research information, which necessitates my writing involved and lengthy replies. I simply do not have the time to offer to this purpose any longer. I have become extremely busy over the years, and I can no longer keep up with the heaps of mail anymore. I will, however, continue to keep my email address and I welcome any email, of course—especiallydata transfer, and that it will be available in another hour. I would wait the hour, and have the exact same thing happen again. I KNOW this must be EXTREMELY frustrating for visitors to my pages, especially for those who are not just browsing, but are actually using the site for research material.
In addition to this source of utter frustration, I find that I simply can NOT keep up with the quantity of email that I receive daily. Please believe me when I say that I am NOT complaining about receiving such a large volume of email! It’s simply that I feel it is unfair to the authors of those emails because they are in search of research information, which necessitates my writing involved and lengthy replies. I simply do not have the time to offer to this purpose any longer. I have become extremely busy over the years, and I can no longer keep up with the heaps of mail anymore. I will, however, continue to keep my email address and I welcome any email, of course—especially from any of you. J
In the meantime, if there is anything in particular that you wish to obtain from any of my pages, I recommend that you attempt to access the pages soon and retrieve that information, etc. Within a couple of weeks I will be placing a notice similar to this email on the site.
In closing, I would once again like to express all my appreciation for your continued support of my website. It’s been such a pleasure getting to know each of you. I will retain my address book, and shal from any of you. J
In the meantime, if there is anything in particular that you wish to obtain from any of my pages, I recommend that you attempt to access the pages soon and retrieve that information, etc. Within a couple of weeks I will be placing a notice similar to this email on the site.
In closing, I would once again like to express all my appreciation for your continued support of my website. It’s been such a pleasure getting to know each of you. I will retain my address book, and shall inform you of any additional news, as well as if and when I move forward with another Victorian website, or any other Victorian project (including possibly a book).
Until we meet again….
With My Warmest Victorian Regards,
Dawn"
Jo Simpsons
05-02-2005, 12:41 AM
This is so sad
Jo :(
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