Has this replaced the Look-up exchange site? If so, need Winkfield Bap. info please

[ET in the USA]

I tried to access the Berkshire Look-up Exchange on Geocities and the page was not found. Is this forum the replacement ?

I have the microfilm for Winkfield Parish Church Bishop's Transcripts 1607-1836. They are VERY difficult to read, so if anyone has a trascription or Beals on your tree, could you please look for the following & give me a clue:

Baptism: Henry Beal (have no idea of parents, etc)

Per 1851 census he was born Winkfield, Berks c. 1806 , Occupation: Gardener

Unable to locate on 1861 or 71 census. Do not know date of death. Only know he married Sarah Patey (widow) 8 Jan 1832 at St. James, Paddington and they had a daughter Harriet Elizabeth Beal b. 12 Aug 1839 at Queen Charlotte's Lying in Hospital, Maryebone Reg. District. On birth cert., child was not named, so GRO entry is for Female Beal. Also unable to find baptism for Harriet on St. James microfilm to confirm her identify.

Any suggestions appreciated.
Thanks in advance,

[idredge]

Hi I am interested because my husband gg grandmother was a Sarah Patey born 1814 in Bermondsey, you don't say whether Patey was her maiden name or 1st married name.

I am looking for you did you find them in 1851?

Irene

[idredge]

Hi again

I have found a Henry Beal christened in Sunninhill 27.7.1806. Parents James and Sarah Beal. Before you say no not them Sunninghill is only abt 3 miles from Winkfield so a good possibility. Worth keeping and checking to see if you can find any more children of James and Sarah and see where they are living.

Irene

[ET in the USA]

Irene,

I assume you found the Henry Beal, Sunninghill baptism on the IGI ? I found that also and wondered, but I only have the microfilm for Winkfield now.

I spoke to someone who has a Thomas Beal born in Winkfield, Berks c. 1814.
She got the date off a marriage license and thinks he could be a younger brother of Henry, but doesn't have a baptism record, etc. to link him.

As for Sarah Patey - After looking at microfilm of parish register for St. James Paddington, I found that Sarah Patey was a Widow at the time of her 1832 marriage. If she was born c. 1802 per 1851 census, she was about 30 in 1832 so probably would not have been married to Mr. Patey prior to 1818 (age 16 ? at earliest).
Henry Beal was a bachelor in 1832. I wasn't able to find any previous marriage for Sarah on St. James parish register which only went back to 1824. BTW, the witnesses to the above 1832 marriage looked like T.S. Patey (Paty ?) and Emma Booner ?.

Anyway, I doesn't sound like this widow, born 1802, is the same Sarah as you seek.
Thanks for trying.

[idredge]

Hi

I didn't think that this Sarah was ours, as I have our Sarah up to her death in 1881, I just wondered it she was related or related by marriage as ours were from Bermondsey as well. It is possible that her 1st marriage would have been in Bermondsey, if you have the daughters birth certificate then you should have the mothers maiden name. I would be interested in that if you have it.

You often find that if they were born in one place they could be christened in another. We have one, born in Bath 1829/30 in the 1851 census but we found his christening in Box Wiltshire 1830 where my side of the family were, it helped us pin point when they moved there.

Good luck in your quest.

Irene

[ET in the USA]

Irene,

On the birth cert, the child is not named - the space is left blank, so the GRO index just shows Female Beal. She was born at Queen Charlotte's Lying In Hospital 12 AUG 1839, Marylebone Reg. Dist.
Father: Henry Beal Occupation: Gardener
Mother: Sarah Beal formerly Patey
Informant: Ann Wiselton ?, Secretary to the Hospital Occupied

One thing that has me somewhat confused is that this indicates that Sarah's maiden surname is Patey, however, on the parish register for the marriage she is a widow.

I'd like to believe that the lack of name and the error in the surname was due to the misinformation of the informant who wasn't a relative. Maybe this is wishful thinking.

I will be taking another look at Bermondsey and Winkfield parish registers in a few days. I had also hoped to find a baptism for the child whom I believe to be Harriet Elizabeth Beal, but nothing so far at St. James Paddington where Henry & Sarah were married.

[idredge]

I would think that the mother was asked, maybe just maybe her maiden name was Patey as well. I will see if I can find anything.

Irene

[idredge]

Just had another thought, have you found them in 1841, is it the same as 51 that's the trouble with London parishes they are close so could be in neighbouring parishes. The 1841 census is now on line with British Origins, its searchable by name not tried it myself but my 2nd cousin has with great success.

Irene

[ET in the USA]

Irene,

I have Ancestry free at my local county library, but haven't used Origins, so don't have credit or membership. I have put a call for help on the Middlesex forum, so hopefully SKS will help us out with a find.
Thanks for your suggestions.