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peter nicholl
06-04-2006, 06:48 PM
I've managed to narrow down a search for a BC marriage to between 1931 and 1940. As I live in England how do I get to cover those years? The marriage was between Ada Rose Nicholl and John Charles Bailey. It possibly took place in Langley or greater Vancouver. Any help greatly appreciated.
Peter

DebbieAnn
07-04-2006, 01:28 AM
Peter,

Try this:
http://www.vs.gov.bc.ca/admin/fees.html

and request a Genealogy Certified Registration Copy.

Debbie

peter nicholl
07-04-2006, 05:35 PM
Thanks Debbie for your reply.

Peter

Ken Boyce
07-04-2006, 07:41 PM
Not sure if records less than 75yrs are accessible to the public

The BC Archives are at

http://www.bcarchives.gov.bc.ca/index.htm

Regards

Ken Boyce
07-04-2006, 08:02 PM
Extracted from a BC Arhives Document

Genealogy Certified Registration Copy - Birth Event

For genealogical research purposes the Agency issues a unique certified registration copy, which makes available all the information recorded on the original event record.
Eligible applicants consist of:

�� anyone, as long as the record pertains to a person who has been dead for 20 years and proof of death is produced;
�� anyone, if the record has been in existence for 120 years;
�� the closest living relative of the person named, on production of proof of death; and,
�� an agent of the above, if they are the solicitor for the person, or they have the written consent of the eligible person.

Note: Closest living relative is defined as: mother, father, son, daughter, spouse, sister, brother, grandparent, or grandchild.

Ken Boyce
07-04-2006, 08:13 PM
Pt2
Genealogy Certified Registration Copy - Marriage Event

For genealogical research purposes the Agency issues a unique certified registration copy, which makes available all the information recorded on the original event record.

Eligible applicants consist of:
�� anyone, as long as the bride and groom have both been dead for 20 years;
�� anyone, if the record has been in existence for 75 years;
�� the closest living relative of the person named, on production of proof of death; and,
�� an agent of the above, if they are the solicitor for the person, or they have the written consent of the eligible person
.
Note: Closest living relative is defined as: mother, father, son, daughter, spouse, sister, brother, grandparent, or grandchild.

Ken Boyce
07-04-2006, 08:17 PM
Pt3

Genealogy Certified Registration Copy - Death Event

For genealogical research purposes the Agency issues a unique certified registration copy, which makes available all the information recorded on the original event record.

Eligible applicants consist of:
�� the closest living relative;
�� anyone, if the death occurred more than 20 years previously; and,
�� an agent of the above, if they are the solicitor for the person, or they have the written consent of the eligible person.

Note: Closest living relative is defined as: mother, father, son, daughter, spouse, sister, brother, grandparent, or grandchild.

peter nicholl
07-04-2006, 08:30 PM
Hi Ken,

Thanks, I had looked, but not deeply enough! I hadn't got as far as all of your Part 2. Bride and Groom died on the same day in 1952, so I may get lucky.
Thanks again
Peter

DebbieAnn
07-04-2006, 10:45 PM
Ada Rose Bailey Place: Langley Reg. Number: 1952-09-010886 Copy Available
Date: 1952 10 27 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age: 67 Event: Death Microfilm #: B13213 (GSU # 2032862)

Fredrick Bailey Place: Langley Reg. Number: 1952-09-010887 Copy Available
Date: 1952 10 27 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age: 68 Event: Death Microfilm #: B13213 (GSU # 2032862)

The name is different, but the date and place of death is the same, and the age fits, and the Reg. number is sequential...

Debbie

Edit:
You can view the microfilm at: Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
(from: http://www.vs.gov.bc.ca/genealogy/microfilm.html)
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints holds a copy of the microfilm collection (for BC) in its archives in Salt Lake City, Utah. Individuals may borrow rolls of the microfilm collection through any of the Church's Family History Centers. To contact the nearest Family History Center, refer to "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" in the Yellow PagesTM.

peter nicholl
08-04-2006, 04:30 PM
Hi Debbie

Thanks for all the help. The Ada and John story is a bit sad, John died unexpectedly and within hours Ada had died too. The Death Certificate says Emotional Shock, I suppose they couldn't say Broken Heart.
Ada's Father died in 1940 in Engelhart Ontario in 1940 and his Obit. shows Ada as Mrs Bailey. Ada had married my Great Uncle, Ernest Algernon Nicholl near Engelhart in 1907. Ada , Ernest and their children moved to Vancouver sometime after the 1911 Census and before Ernest went off to War in February 1915. He served with Canadian Signals until September 1918 when he was Commissioned into the Royal Engineers as a 2nd Lieutenant. He appeared in the British Army Lists for 1920 and 1921 and from there the trail goes dead. Neither the British, nor the Canadian Military Authorities have any record of him after that. The on-line BC Archives do not show a death under the name Ernest. The BC on-line Archives only show marriages up to the end of 1930 and Ada and John Bailey do not appear there. So, as I know that Ada had become Ada Bailey by October 1940 and not, at least in BC, before the end of 1930, I have a 10 year gap. The British GRO has indexes for Marriages up to a couple of years ago, I was looking for something similar in BC.
Thanks again
Peter

DebbieAnn
08-04-2006, 08:03 PM
Peter,

As death records are released 20 years after death in BC (as opposed to 75 years for marriages and 100 years for births) you can send for a copy of Ada Rose's death certificate without having to prove your close relationship. I just find it curious that the male of an age to have been her husband who died on the same day and in the same town is named Frederick and not John Charles. Perhaps her death certificate will list her spouse's name(s)...

Debbie

peter nicholl
11-04-2006, 02:01 PM
Peter,
I just find it curious that the male of an age to have been her husband who died on the same day and in the same town is named Frederick and not John Charles. Perhaps her death certificate will list her spouse's name(s)...
Debbie.
:o :confused: Hi Debbie, your curiosity is well founded! I must have had a Senior Moment, John Charles was John Charles Wimhurst, Ada's Dad. He died in Ontario in 1940. Ada's husband was, as you have rightly pointed out, Frederick, Fredrick Bailey.
Thanks ever so much,
Peter