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lucygrasshopper
16-03-2006, 8:20 PM
Hello

Was wondering if someone could help me. I have my Grandfather's Birth certificate. Reg. No. 148 18th June 1880
Date of Birth 7th May 1880
Reg District Saint Saviours,
County of Surrey

The Certificate is for Walter Robert Deller Fawcett.

The mother's name is given a Sarah Fawcett, Formerly Cutts

Their address was 98 Great Guildford St. The town area seems to be Southwark, or it could be Southwalk.

Fathers name was Henry William Fawcett and trade given as Iron-mongers Porter.

Other information I have is: Sarah was Henry William Fawcett's second wife.

Sarah cutts was born in 1838. It would appear she was the daughter of George Cutts who married Sarah Dellar 20.10.1830

Can anyone shed some light on Sarah Dellar and Sarah Cutts

I would be most pleased.
Thank you
Lucy

marymog
16-03-2006, 9:23 PM
1851 census

Ann Cutts abt 1832 Buckland, Hertfordshire, England Buckland Hertfordshire
Emma Cutts abt 1850 Buckland, Hertfordshire, England Buckland Hertfordshire
Geo Cutts abt 1810 Buckland, Hertfordshire, England Head Buckland Hertfordshire
John Cutts abt 1842 Buckland, Hertfordshire, England Buckland Hertfordshire
Mary Cutts abt 1835 Buckland, Hertfordshire, England Buckland Hertfordshire
Reb Cutts abt 1846 Buckland, Hertfordshire, England Buckland Hertfordshire
Sar Cutts abt 1839 Buckland, Hertfordshire, England Buckland Hertfordshire

George Cutts was a woodman, Address: Buckland. Status. Widower.

1861
Emma Cutts abt 1850 Buckland, Hertfordshire, England Daughter Buckland Hertfordshire
George Cutts abt 1810 Buckland, Hertfordshire, England Head Buckland Hertfordshire
Rebecca Cutts abt 1846 Buckland, Hertfordshire, England Daughter Buckland Hertfordshire

George Cutts was Ag.Lab address: chalkpit lane…widower

Sarah Cutts abt 1838 Buckland, Hertfordshire, England Servant St John Zachary Middlesex

1871

Record George Cutts abt 1810 Buckland, Hertfordshire, England Head Buckland Hertfordshire
Rebecca Cutts abt 1846 Buckland, Hertfordshire, England Daughter Buckland Hertfordshire
Reualds H Cutts abt 1867 London City, Middlesex, England Daughter Son Buckland Hertfordshire
Walter Cutts abt 1869 Buckland, Hertfordshire, England Daughter Son Buckland Hertfordshire

George Ag.lab living 1 London rd.

Sarah Cutter abt 1837 Baukrey, Herefordshire, England Servant Paddington London (was written Cutts) unclear writing.

Hope this is her

mm

Peter Goodey
16-03-2006, 10:54 PM
Marriage of Henry William FAWCETT and Sarah CUTTS

June 1879 Whitechapel 1c 685

You hadn't mentioned having the certificate but I think you'll be wanting it.

lucygrasshopper
17-03-2006, 2:19 AM
Thank you both for your replies - Re: Sarah Cutts

This sounds like her - the dates seem right.


"Sarah Cutts abt 1838 Buckland, Hertfordshire, England Servant St John Zachary Middlesex "

No, I don't have any Wedding Certificate as mentioned. How do I obtain same - is it sent by snail mail, or printed from an e-mail and...how much does it cost?

Was there any mention of Deller/Dellar?

I am going by a pencil written notations on an old piece of paper. All I have is my Grandfather's Birth certificate regarding Sarah Cutts

I do however have two very poor, almost illigible copies of
Marriage and birth certificates. These may not be related as I think the Marriage Certificate is a First Marriage.

1. Marriage....
Sept/could be Feb 20th 1839
No. 179(?) Henry Fawcett and Harriet Eddicett
Listed as full age (I guess over 21)
The Address looks like 8 Labour in vain Crt???
Witness: Aaron Fawcett -Stone Mason?
James Eddicett - Carpenter

The Parish Church is illegible - City of London.

2. Birth certificate

Reg No 352
Could read 28th of August 1840
Henry William
Father: Henry Fawcett
Mother: Fawcett - formerly Eddicett
City of London
Sub District: City of London
County of Middlesex.

No mention of Cutts or Dellar/Deller

I trust my request and information is not too overpowering.

I am a beginner.


Thank you for assistance...I will have to study the Cutts/Cutter above as the signature is Cutts

Thank you
Lucy

marymog
17-03-2006, 9:06 AM
Thank you both for your replies - Re: Sarah Cutts

This sounds like her - the dates seem right.


"Sarah Cutts abt 1838 Buckland, Hertfordshire, England Servant St John Zachary Middlesex "

No, I don't have any Wedding Certificate as mentioned. How do I obtain same - is it sent by snail mail, or printed from an e-mail and...how much does it cost?



The 1851 shows sarah living at home, her father is a widower, so her mother has no mention.

All BMD certificates can be purchased online at the General records office.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

go to the menu "investigating your family tree" and all we be explained. Certificates cost 7 pounds each.
You order them by using the Page and volume number. These are shown on searches through FreeBMD or Ancestry. both searches are free.

Peter goodey gave you this

Marriage of Henry William FAWCETT and Sarah CUTTS

June 1879 Whitechapel 1c 685

the 1c is the volume and the 685 is the page.

so that one is ready to order.

next message follows, I have some more information.

mm

marymog
17-03-2006, 9:25 AM
Here is some info on Henrys father and mother take from censuses

1851 address 8 Labour in vain court….Henry Fawcett snr. was a baker

Eliza Fawcett abt 1847 London, England Daughter St Mary Mountshaw Middlesex
Emma Lava Fawcett abt 1843 London, England Daughter St Mary Mountshaw Middlesex
Hariet Fawcett abt 1813 Tiverton, Devon, England Wife St Mary Mountshaw Middlesex
Henry Fawcett abt 1815 Reading, Berkshire, England Head St Mary Mountshaw Middlesex
Henry Fawcett abt 1841 London, England Son St Mary Mountshaw Middlesex


1861 address 6 Labour in vain court..Henry snr was a clerk and undertaker

Henry Fawcett abt 1815 Reading, Berkshire, England Head St Mary Mounthaw Middlesex
Eliza Frank abt 1846 London City Daughter St Mary Mounthaw Middlesex
Emily Elizabeth Frank abt 1857 London City Daughter St Mary Mounthaw Middlesex
Emma Lavinia Frank abt 1842 Blind, London, England Daughter St Mary Mounthaw Middlesex
Harriet Frank abt 1854 London City Daughter St Mary Mounthaw Middlesex
Harriett Frank abt 1812 Tiverton, Devon, England Wife St Mary Mounthaw Middlesex

(they transcribed the name as Frank, but it was Fawcett(bad handwriting)
Henry is not living with them.

I am posting everything separately because the message board is playing up, very annoying, it keeps duplicating…!!

mm…next list follows

marymog
17-03-2006, 9:32 AM
1871 finds Sarah and Henry living together!! They managed to get married in 1879.

1871 address… 12 church st……Henry occupation ….Ironmongers porter

Emma Cutts abt 1850 Bantingford Sister-in-law Christchurch London
Emily Sarah Fawcett abt 1869 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Daughter Christchurch London
Henry W Fawcett abt 1841 London, England Head Christchurch London
Henry W Fawcett abt 1866 St. Saviour Son Christchurch London
Sarah Fawcett abt 1840 Bantingford, Hertfordshire, England Wife Christchurch London

1881
John Coffey abt 1851 London City Of, London, Middlesex, England Boarder 129 Middlesex St, Whitechapel, London, England
Albert John Fawcett abt 1874 Southwark, Surrey, England Son 129 Middlesex St, Whitechapel, London, England
Arthur John Fawcett abt 1877 Southwark, Surrey, England Son 129 Middlesex St, Whitechapel, London, England
Emily Sarah Fawcett abt 1869 St Pancras, Middlesex, England Daughter 129 Middlesex St, Whitechapel, London, England
Henry Wm. Fawcett abt 1841 London, London, Middlesex, England Head 129 Middlesex St, Whitechapel, London, England
Henry Wm. Fawcett abt 1866 London, London, Middlesex, England Son 129 Middlesex St, Whitechapel, London, England
Laburan H. Fawcett abt 1871 Southwark, Surrey, England Daughter 129 Middlesex St, Whitechapel, London, England
Sarah Fawcett abt 1840 Hertfordshire, England Wife 129 Middlesex St, Whitechapel, London, England
Walter John Fawcett abt 1880 Southwark, Surrey, England Son 129 Middlesex St, Whitechapel, London, England

marymog
17-03-2006, 9:50 AM
Was there any mention of Deller/Dellar?



Deller (Sarahs mother maybe??) Sarahs mother was dead before the 1851 census.

You could try to find her death on Free BMD or ancestry, or try to get a look up on the 1841 census. I don't have this resource.

marymog
17-03-2006, 9:54 AM
1. Marriage....
Sept/could be Feb 20th 1839
No. 179(?) Henry Fawcett and Harriet Eddicett
Listed as full age (I guess over 21)
The Address looks like 8 Labour in vain Crt???
Witness: Aaron Fawcett -Stone Mason?
James Eddicett - Carpenter

The Parish Church is illegible - City of London.

2. Birth certificate

Reg No 352
Could read 28th of August 1840
Henry William
Father: Henry Fawcett
Mother: Fawcett - formerly Eddicett
City of London
Sub District: City of London
County of Middlesex.



the marriage and the birth are explained by the 1851 census.

hope you are a bit further now

mm

marymog
17-03-2006, 10:26 AM
Hi,

a quick ps, If you go to
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp

choose advanced search, enter Harriet Eddicett, 1813, England.

then choose pedigree resource files: Harriet Eddicett and you will find information about the family, submitted by a Jerald Fawcett of Utah.

maybe you could contact him... Dont take the results he gives as gospel, :D but they are well worth checking out.

mm

r-careys
17-03-2006, 11:44 AM
This may not be of any use to you but all my Dellar's come from "Hertfordshire"
Sarah seems to be common name for Dellar.
My Sarah's dont match with your dates though :confused:

lucygrasshopper
17-03-2006, 6:40 PM
Thank you Mr Goodey for your information.

Thank you MaryMog...

I have quite a lot to go on with. Will get back to you if I get stuck

You have been a wonderful help to me.

All by e-mail. Marvellous!

Lucy

lucygrasshopper
18-03-2006, 4:29 AM
Thank you R-Careys

Will try to find Deller - I have both spellings. Sometimes this sort of thing happens, folk transmit a name as they hear it sounded rather than how it is written.

You have been a great help.

Lucy