isaac cartmell and catherine hurley

[morton]

catherine hurley was born in ireland about 1845,she married isaac cartmell, they had 5 children,mary h b.1869,henry b1872,catherine b1875,isaac b1878 and agnes ann, my grandmother, b1886. isaac cartmell senior was b1842 and died 1892, he was a mariner and was lost at sea. i no nothing more of the above other than my grandmother came down to work in service in blackburn before marrying my grandfather and settling in accrington. married name wigglesworth.

[Trish]

catherine hurley was born in ireland about 1845,she married isaac cartmell, they had 5 children,mary h b.1869,henry b1872,catherine b1875,isaac b1878 and agnes ann, my grandmother, b1886. isaac cartmell senior was b1842 and died 1892, he was a mariner and was lost at sea. i no nothing more of the above other than my grandmother came down to work in service in blackburn before marrying my grandfather and settling in accrington. married name wigglesworth.Do you have the 1891 census info?

Census: 1891: RG12/4314 Folio 116 Page 35
Address: Queen St. [?Tod or Toll? hunters Buildings], Whitehaven, Cumberland
-- Catherine CARTMELL Head M 46 [born] Ireland
-- Henry Do Son S 17 Furnace Labouer [born] Cumberland Whitehaven
-- Isaac Do Do 11 Scholar [born] Do Do
-- William Do Do 9 Do [born] Do Do
-- Catherine Do Daur 15 Domestic Servant [born] Do Do
-- Agnes Do Do 5

HTH,
Trish

[Trish]

How about 1881? They are living at 47 Peter St.: Isaac and Catherine with Mary H., Henry, Catherine and Isaac [Reference: RG11/5187 Folio 63 Page 38] If you haven't already done so, you can view a transcription of the census image at www.familysearch.org (http://www.familysearch.org).

And 1871?

Census: 1871: RG10/5257 Folio 35 Page 30
Address: 1 B H. of Correctn Lane, Whitehaven, Cumberland
-- Catherine CARTMEL [sic] Head Mar 27 Sailor's Wife [born] Ireland
-- Sarah do Daur 3 [born] Cumber -- Whitehaven
-- Mary Ellen do Daur 11 mo [born] do do

Regards,
Trish

[Trish]

In 1881, daughter Sarah CARTMELL is 12 years old and working as a servant in the household of Isaac Kendle BECK, a coal miner, and his wife Margaret in Preston Quarter, Cumberland. [Reference: RG11/5188 Folio 90 Page 27]

Sarah, in 1891:

Census: 1891: RG12/4315 Folio 92 Page 23
Address: 9 High Street ?Bramly, Preston Quarter, Whitehaven, Cumberland
-- Henry CARTMELL Head M 50 Generator Labourer [bonr] Cumberland Whitehaven
-- Ann Do Wife M 53 [born] Lancashire
-- William Do Son S 22 Dock Labourer [born] Do
-- Richard Do Son S 17 Tailor [born] Cumberland Whitehaven
-- Robert P. Do Son 12 Scholar [born] Do Do
-- John Do Son 9 Do [born] Do Do
-- Sarah Do Neice [sic] S 22 Domestic Servant [born] Do Do
-- Mary E. Do Daur 14 Milliner Apprentice [born] Do Do

Regards,
Trish

[Trish]

Marriage record for Sarah CARTMELL: 1891 Jul-Aug-Sep quarter, Whitehaven. Possible grooms are Biggins Johnstone CROSBY and John KENNEDY. [Reference: Volume 10b Page 931]

In the 1901 census, Biggins CROSBY has a wife named Sarah and daughters Mary C., Ellener, Sarah E., John and Robert H. They all live at 3 Correction Lane Peter St. in Whitehaven. [Reference: RG13/4862 Folio 132 Page 24]

Trish

[Trish]

Could this be Isaac and Catherine's marriage record?

1866 Oct-Nov-Dec quarter
-- Whitehaven, Cumberland
-- Isaac CARTMEL [sic]
-- Catherine EARLY [sic]
Reference: Volume 10b Page 863

The 1871 census shows no HURLEYs but there is a family named EARLY:

Census: 1871: RG10/5257 Folio 49 Page 11
Address: Harrisens Ct, Scotch St., Whitehaven, Cumberland
-- William EARLY Head Mar 36 Iron Miner [born] Ireland
-- Margaret -"- Wife Mar 34 [born] -"-
-- James -"- Son Unm 13 [born] -"-
-- Nancy -"- Daur -"- 11 [born] -"-
-- Matilda -"- Daur -"- 8 [born] -"-
-- Margaret -"- -"- -"- 5 [born] -"-
-- Joshua -"- -"- Son -"- 3 [born] Cumberland Whitehaven
-- William -"- -"- -"- 3 mo [born] -"-

There's another EARLY, a young girl named Mary Ann, 15 years old attending school in St. Bees Parish. She's probably an older daughter of William and Margaret. [Reference: RG10/5256 Folio 22 Page 37]

Perhaps Catherine's last name is really EARLY and William is her brother...

Trish

[morton]

thanks alot for the information,some of it i had already found out, but the possible surname could be interesting. im going to get my grandmothers birth certificate and see if its hurley or early.Does anyone know about the sarah bragg, she was acargo ship heading for the Isle of man from whitehaven when she floundered on rocks,that was in december,1892. my ggfather, isaac cartmell was killed,i don't know if they found his body i didn't find adeath entry for1892.

[Trish]

thanks alot for the information,some of it i had already found out, but the possible surname could be interesting. im going to get my grandmothers birth certificate and see if its hurley or early.Does anyone know about the sarah bragg, she was acargo ship heading for the Isle of man from whitehaven when she floundered on rocks,that was in december,1892. my ggfather, isaac cartmell was killed,i don't know if they found his body i didn't find adeath entry for1892.How does Sarah BRAGG tie in? Is she Catherine and Isaac's daughter?

Just to clarify: Sarah BRAGG was on the same cargo ship as Isaac CARTMELL, sailing from Whitehaven to the Isle of Man in 1892. It floundered on rocks and both were killed? You have this information from family history handed down or from some other source?

Regards,
Trish

[morton]

thanks for the information on Sarah BRAGG, i was under the impression that it was the name of the cargo ship. i got the information from another family member i have no idea where he got it from. I have found out that catherine was called early not hurley its confirmed from my grandmothers birth certificate. so now im on the early trail!

[Keith W.]

Hi there,
If you would like to know more about your Grandfather Wigglesworths side of the family please let me know.
I belong to the WIGG (Wigglesworth International Genealogy Group Study) group and we have masses of information about Wigglesworths from all over the country and abroad. The Accrington branch is known to us.
Regards
Keith

[earlycart]

thanks for your offer, but im already a member of wiggs.

[nanhume]

Thought you might like to know about the Sarah Bragg. The Sarah Bragg was a brig. She was named for my GGG grandmother, Sarah Ann Bragg, daughter of Captain Joseph Bragg of Whitehaven (1793-1886). As far as I am aware there was no relationship between Isaac Bragg and Joseph, although as they are all Cumberland Braggs there is almost certainly a link somewhere. Joseph Bragg was a captain and ship owner. The Sarah Bragg was probably owned by both Joe Bragg and the Nuzum family of Dublin - Sarah married Thomas Nuzum, and the Nuzums shipped goods between Whitehaven, Dublin and the Isle of Man.

[sarahlou]

Hi
my GG Grandfather was Joseph Bragg Nuzum, I know that he was born in Ireland, I believe he is connected with shipping somehow given the surnames and that his son was William Henderson Nuzum.
Any info you have would be gratefully received!

sarahlou