Birth Certs. with the child named 'Male' or 'Female'

[ET in the USA]

What are they trying to tell us ? Does this imply that the child was sickly or died, therefore couldn't be Great Great Grandmother or that they just hadn't decided on a name yet ?
If the latter, would baptism records be the best way to decide if this was the person you were searching for?


I am searching for the birth of Harriet Elizabeth Beal based on the following information:

1851 Census - Harriet Beal - Born abt. 1840 -Paddington Middlesex
1861 - Can't find
1871 - Harriet Wood (married name) - born abt. 1840 -Marylebone Middlesex
1881 - Harriet Wood - born abt. 1840 - Paddington Middlesex
1884 - 13 Nov - died at age 45 Battersea Surrey

After searching the 1838 - 1841 birth records, which would you spend money ordering? I know from a marriage cert. that her father was Henry Beal.

Sept. 1838 - Harriet Beal - Shoreditch Dist.
Dec 1838 - Harriet Beal - Wortley Dist (East Yorkshire-not likely)
Sept 1839 - Female Beal - Marylebone
June 1840 - Female Beale - Kensington
Dec 1841 - Harriet Beal - Islington

London/Middlesex is a mystery zone to me. Anyone with local knowledge out there want to take a stab at this?

[DebbieAnn]

Looks like Henry Beal, who in 1851 lived with his wife and daughter in Westminster St. Margaret, Middlesex, died in that parish in Sep qtr 1851 (vol 1 pg 38*) (*=unreadable). Daughter Harriett was 11 in the census, so would have been 11-12 at her father's death.

The Sept 1839 birth seems the closest by the calendar, and you can specify the father's name when you order, but perhaps someone could check the 1841 census for you to see if it lists her place of birth as well...

This site: http://www.fhsc.org.uk/genuki/reg/lnd.htm#stgh shows parishes within districts. Paddington, Marylebone, Westminster St. Margaret, parts of Kennsington records are all now kept in Westminster, so must be fairly close.

Sorry, this isn't a great help.

Debbie

[Ladkyis]

The 1841 census doesn't give a place of birth it just says yes or no as to whether the person was born in the county where the census is taken.


Ann

[DebbieAnn]

well, shoot!

Might she have had older siblings? Her father and mother were born abt 1806 and 1809, resp. so in theory, she could have been the youngest... (mother's name Sarah, by 1851 census). Maybe later census' would be more help for them (siblings), and then could apply it to Harriett?

Debbie

[ET in the USA]

Hmmmmmmmmmm
I will search 1861 & 1841 census again today using free Ancestry subscription at local library. I will look for Henry, Sarah or Harriet, as I have not found any of them after 1851 until I found Harriet in 1871, married.
However,
IF - Henry & Sarah married 8 Jan 1838 as I found on IGI, but not sure it is them...
and SINCE Harriet was born c. 1839 - 1840 as per census
and IF - Henry is the Henry Beal who died in Sept 1851 (not sure since Harriet's 1863 marriage cert. does not show her father as 'deceased')
and SINCE - only Henry, Sarah & Harriet appear in family unit in 1851...

my guess is that Harriet was an only child. Where would the others be in 1851 at age 10 or younger if 11 yr old Harriet was at home?

Thanks for your suggestions.

[Mythology]

"The Sept 1839 birth seems the closest by the calendar"

Yes, and it also matches the Marylebone birthplace which is given on the 1871. Paddington and Marylebone are right next door to each other, so that one is just as likely to be right as the 1851 and 1881 entries that say Paddington.
Also, not that it's a lot to go by, but it also matches the spelling.

However ...
While this girl is consistent on her age, taking things to the nearest year rather than the last birthday was pretty commonplace, so if no luck with that, unless there's a pronto death for that "Female Beale" in Kensington, June 1840, which suggests an infant failure, that one is worth a shot as second choice. As a *registration district*, Paddington did not exist then - the Paddington parishes came under Kensington.