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margaret of epsom
24-10-2004, 12:24 PM
I have searched for birth in "1837" back to 1879 can't be found
I have found birth in IGI records as 1880 Battersea Parish Surrey
Desperate to get original birth cert and find death cert.
Also searched 1891 census and 1901 census no luck there.
Please can anyone help?
Margaret

Trish
24-10-2004, 3:37 PM
Margaret,

Do you have any other information that may help someone help you -- such as John's parents' or siblings' names? His children? Anything else? Have you tried searching for variations of RUFF or for matches that are close in age?

Regards,
Trish ;)
Toronto, Canada

Guy Etchells
24-10-2004, 5:15 PM
I take it it is this John RUFF you are refering to
Dwelling: 140 Grant Rd
Census Place: Battersea, Surrey, England
Source: FHL Film 1341148 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0643 Folio 85 Page 46
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Stephen RUFF M 34 M Worthing, Sussex, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Carter
Elizabeth RUFF M 27 F St Lukes, Middlesex, England
Rel: Wife
Stephen RUFF 9 message=I take it it is this John RUFF you are refering to
Dwelling: 140 Grant Rd
Census Place: Battersea, Surrey, England
Source: FHL Film 1341148 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0643 Folio 85 Page 46
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Stephen RUFF M 34 M Worthing, Sussex, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Carter
Elizabeth RUFF M 27 F St Lukes, Middlesex, England
Rel: Wife
Stephen RUFF 9 M Worthing, Sussex, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
John RUFF 1 M Battersea, Surrey, England
Rel: Son

I note from the details the father was a carter, had the family moved to Battersea by 1880 or were they still resident in Worthing?
If the latter he may be registered there, even though that would not be the correct procedure.
Similarly his mother is from St. Lukes, Middlesex, did she drop over to visit her mum and register the birth there?

There is a John RUFF born in St. Lukes have you ruled him out?
Dwelling: 5 Masons Place
Census Place: St Luke, London, Middlesex, England
Source: FHL Film 1341078 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 0360 Folio 40 Page 20
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Harry RUFF M 35 M Lambeth, Surrey, England
Rel: Head
Occ: Iron Moulder
Emma RUFF M 35 F Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Rel: Wife
Occ: Iron Moulder Wife
Harry RUFF 14 M Bermonday, Surrey, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Errand Boy
Emma RUFF U 12 F Lambeth, Surrey, England
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Richard RUFF U 7 M Islington, Middlesex, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar%0M Worthing, Sussex, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
John RUFF 1 M Battersea, Surrey, England
Rel: Son

Cheers
Guy