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puzzled
17-01-2006, 12:43 AM
I've hit a brick wall with my grandmother Fanny Wood nee Adams, the last definite date I have for her is my mother's birth registration 12 10 1907. I belive she was a widow at the time so did she marry again? I can't find a marriage or a death. She would have been around 39 at the time. How can I find her please.

Geoffers
17-01-2006, 12:54 AM
Does your lass turn up in any directories to help you narrow down the search in time and location?

If not, you may have a long search through the GRO indexes and Wills index (it took me a search of 38 years to locate the death of one of my gt-grandmothers) to either find a second marriage or death.

If you know where she lived and she didn't remarry, you might try local newspapers in the hope that the funeral notices/obits have been indexed.

Any family photos which show her after 1907?

Geoffers

Ken Boyce
17-01-2006, 04:33 AM
Hi
It would be useful to know what post 1907 resources you have tried as the timeline could stretch to 1960s if she died in her 90s

Regards

puzzled
22-01-2006, 06:39 PM
I have tried birth, marriages and deaths on Ancestry and LDS, where else should I look. I just realised I put this on the Bucks page, I was looking for some rellies who came from there. I should have put it on the Hertfordshire page as that is the last know address for her. If you can suggest the next place I should look , I would be most grateful. Thanks.

Geoffers
22-01-2006, 09:04 PM
I have tried birth, marriages and deaths on Ancestry and LDS, where else should I look.
I understand from other messages posted that Ancestry just has the same information as freebmd, this is not complete. It depends what you've looked at in one of the mormon centres

The General Register Office (GRO) index of deaths can be seen at the Family Records Centre (FRC) in London; also at many County Record Offices/Local Studies' Libraries, and on a pay-per-view web-site 1837online

Geoffers

Ken Boyce
23-01-2006, 02:01 AM
One choice is to browse the post 1907 Marriage and/or Death Indexes however, you need to have access to the complete Index (in your case at least to the 1960s). The FreeBMD Index is not yet complete and does not at present extend much beyond c1907, however there are at least two complete Indexes available online on a pay by view basis.

In addition to her a name and age you will need some clues as to her place of death and/or marriage to help determine which entry in the Index is yours. Widows often lived with, or close by one of their married children or with their youngest single child. Do you have information on your Maternal Grandfather? Knowing something of his profile is a clue as to the possibility that members of the family may be listed in Directories or other reference sources. Unless your mother was born out of wedlock grandpa was alive some nine months prior to her birth. Do you know when they married? Are there siblings as age 39 is getting rather late for just a single child particularly if she was married say around age 22.

HTH

Regards

Mythology
23-01-2006, 10:47 AM
"on a pay-per-view web-site 1837online"

"available online on a pay by view basis."

Geoffers, Ken - where have you two been for the last week? ;)

Ancestry now have the "complete" GRO index (edit - up to 1983) online as images.
It is a "beta" version, so it's not actually complete - I went looking for May Eland, known to have been alive 1920, got up to 1950 so far (edit - lived to 94, eventually found in 1982 March quarter!), and found that for 1926 December quarter the indexing has been done but when you click the links there are no images for anything starting with E.
The indexing is, of course, up (or down) to the usual Ancestry standard, so you will find no page listed when one does exist in some cases, or two pages listed when there's really only one, because they don't believe that the surname "Rain" exists so anyone between B and R will also be indexed as being on a mythical page running from Bain to Roberts.
(Edit - or even *six* pages, five duff ones, in one instance - Lord knows how they manage to make such a shambles of it on printed pages with the first three letters in big print in the heading, but that's Ancesspit for you)

Ancestry are not known for their philanthropy, so I have no doubt that the final version will be on a pay basis, but at the moment it is FREE !!!

Get in there and grab what you can before they start charging!

puzzled
23-01-2006, 02:53 PM
Hi Ken, my mother was fostered so knew nothing of her family, she was told that she had a sister a couple of years older but didn't even know her name or where she was. All she had was a photo of herself aged 4 or 5 with another girl, they were both dressed identically, although they don't look alike. My mother was born in Bengeo,Hertford in 1907 so I searched the births for two years before and found a Gertrude Wood in 1905 with the same mother's name.
I recently got Gertrude's birth cert. and the mothers matched, but better still when I looked at the address, a different one to my mothers, on the 1901 census I found the family with Fanny married to George and 5 children. By the time Gertrude was born Fanny was discribed as a widow, the father's details are blank. On my mother's birth cert. it just has Fanny's occupation as charwoman, again father's details blank. So the last address I have is the one on this birth cert.
Now I'm trying to find what happened to Fanny and the other children, but so far can't find them anywhere. I would seem that she must have fallen on hard times to give up her two youngest children.
Any help anyone can give would be much appreciated.
Betty.

Geoffers
23-01-2006, 04:16 PM
"Geoffers, Ken - where have you two been for the last week? Ancestry now have the "complete" GRO index (edit - up to 1983) online as images.......at the moment it is FREE !!!
Fair enough. For those who use Ancestry this is obviously a useful aid.

Personally I don't (won't) use Ancestry, and wouldn't if everything on it was free.

Geoffers

Ken Boyce
25-01-2006, 09:19 AM
Seems that access to the complete Index is only for paidup members since it won't allow me in without a passord.

Diane Grant-Salmon
25-01-2006, 10:19 AM
Seems that access to the complete Index is only for paidup members since it won't allow me in without a passord.

Hi Ken,

I subscribe to Ancestry but I've just been there and didn't log in. I got the search box for Births and Marriages, but the Death box didn't appear, so maybe they're working on that one?

I've also managed to get the images, so are you trying the UK link, which is this one.

http://www.ancestry.co.uk/default.aspx

colin rutter
04-03-2006, 04:44 PM
Ken,
You can get free access to the ancestry birth marriage death index pages at tinyurl.com/87byx It doesn't ask for any password. I think you can also get free access to it by signing up/registering without subscribing/paying.
Regards,
Colin