View Full Version : 1841 census image lookup please? have ref number
03-12-2005, 5:21 AM
HO 107/987/1 Stoke-on-Trent
Sch 6, page 4
Hill Top House
Hoping someone with access to the image can confirm the occupation of
Elijah SIMPSON. I have been told it is cordwinder, when I expect it might be cordwainer.
03-12-2005, 6:40 AM
It's a ditto entry from 81 year-old James Bates on the line above, looks pretty clearly like Cordwinder to me so (apart from the capital C) I reckon they got that bit right.
The same cannot be said of the reference they gave you. "Sch 6" is a complete nonsense, there are no schedule numbers on the 1841 - it is folio 6.
I wouldn't place any faith in "Hill Top House" either. This is shown on the *previous* page and, from the end of property indications shown, is not the same place - there are two other properties between that and your one. As was quite common in those days, none of these have any proper address shown at all. Personally I'd stick "Bucknall" in, as that is shown as the township in the page heading and gives an indication that it's not what you might call "proper" Stoke-on-Trent that you're looking at.
03-12-2005, 7:10 AM
The front page of this book has it as:
Parish of Stoke upon Trent
[not too sure whether or not the "u" is intended to be a capital]
Chapelry of Bucknall (Part of)
and describes it as:
The Village of Bucknall from Deovilles Mill to the Towns End
Not my territory, but on that basis I would *definitely* stick Bucknall in, otherwise it seems it's a bit like saying "London" without referring to Marylebone, Southwark or wherever.
03-12-2005, 1:29 PM
This place is outside my normal territory too, asking for a friend. :D Thank you for confirming the occupation - and the other info - so this means this is not my friend's Elijah at all then.
He should be about 20 years old, and a boot and shoe maker.
Thanks again, much appreciated. :)
03-12-2005, 1:50 PM
I think I've probably misunderstood the purpose of your query, Christine, thought you were merely querying a potentially dodgy transcription from a source that you didn't trust.
What is a cordwinder as opposed to a cordwainer?
Apart from a couple who make life easy by calling themselves shoemakers, I don't have any of mine in this line, so I stand ready to be corrected, but to the best of my knowledge, cordwinder is just another word for cordwainer, isn't it?
Oh - and in case whoever you got it from didn't tell you, he reckons he's 17.
04-12-2005, 2:53 AM
silly me, thinking of someone winding cords...... dahhh.
Of course you would be right, just a phonetic spelling thing :D
and yes, have the age as 17 thanks.
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