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Sue Mackay
23-03-2008, 4:20 PM
I am trying to sort out the relationship between various families from Longbridge Deverill who emigrated to the Cape of Good Hope in 1820 as part of the Government sponsored emigration scheme. I have a feeling that Edward FORD's Party of settlers was one big extended family. If anyone can help with links I would be very grateful.

The following definitely went to South Africa on board the Weymouth in 1820:

Ephraim DICKS, widower (he had married Mary WHATLEY on 16 Feb 1806) and his two children, Ephraim (16) and Joseph (5). Ephraim Senior died on board.

James DICKS and his wife Dinah (nee FORD) who married on 25 Dec 1815

James DICKS, always referred to as James DICKS Senior (but not the father of the above James DICKS) and his wife Jane (nee HALL). Jane Hall was his second wife and died on board the Weymouth as the ship reached Cape Town. James' first wife was Jane CROFTS and his children by his first wife emigrated with him: Uriah, James, Joseph, Jonah and Eliza.

Robert HARRIS (17) nephew of James DICKS Senior

Edward FORD, the nominal Party leader, and his wife Jane with their children James (17) John (16) Patience (13) and Elizabeth (11)

Robert MILES of Erlestoke and his wife Ann (nee DICKS) who married in Longbridge Deverill on 7 Nov 1817. They had a two year old son William who died at sea.

Elijah PAYNE (25) and his wife Mary (22) and infant daughter Mary

Joseph RALPH of Crockerton and his wife Elizabeth (nee CURTIS) and children Joseph (3) and infant Mary, who died at sea.

Richard RALPH of Crockerton and his wife Elizabeth (nee MILLS) and children Harriet (4) and Samuel (1)

The following were on the original sailing list in 1819 but did not emigrate in 1820:

George DICKS (27) with wife Sarah and children Ann (2) and Thomas (1)

James CURTIS (24) with wife Susannah and children George and Patience (5) and Dinah (1)

William DICKS (38) with wife Diana and children Mary (14) James (13) Sophia (12) William (11) and Patience (8)

James CROFTS (25) with wife Hannah and children Joseph (3) and Harry (1).


It is believed that James DICKS Senior (whose first wife was Jane CROFTS)had a sister who married a James CROFTS.

The Dinah FORD who married the younger James DICKS and emigrated was the daughter of Edward FORD, the Party leader. Another daughter Maria FORD is supposed to have married a Benjamin DICKS.

The RALPH brothers were also supposed to be blood relations to the DICKS, but I don't as yet know what the link was.

I have a lot of information on what happened to those who emigrated, but would dearly like to sort out the Wiltshire end.

birdlip
23-03-2008, 5:10 PM
Hi Sue,

Elisha (sic) PAYNE m Mary HALL* 06 Dec 1817 Deverill Longbridge

* sister of Jane HALL? wife of James DICKS

Sue Mackay
23-03-2008, 5:22 PM
Hi Sue,

Elisha (sic) PAYNE m Mary HALL* 06 Dec 1817 Deverill Longbridge

* sister of Jane HALL? wife of James DICKS

Thanks for that. Another tiny piece of the jigsaw!

birdlip
23-03-2008, 5:24 PM
I can't find the Edward Ford /Jane marriage, but these marriages in Deverill Longbridge show the family links go back a couple of generations at least;

Edward Lumbard FORD m Hannah DICKS 30 Nov 1812
Edward FORD m Ann PAIN 10 Feb 1792

and even earlier;

Edward FORD m Hannah DECKS 14 Aug 1764

birdlip
23-03-2008, 5:44 PM
James DICKS Senior's sisters marriage may have been this one;

Elizabeth DICKS m James CROFT 20 Jul 1806 Dev L

birdlip
23-03-2008, 5:57 PM
Maria FORD m Benjamin DICKS 07 Jun 1818

birdlip
23-03-2008, 6:00 PM
I can only find two marriages of the four families that stayed;

George DICKS m Sarah MAKER 10 Jul 1816
James CURTIS m Susannah TITFORD 01 Feb 1814

birdlip
23-03-2008, 6:14 PM
Thats about all I can find, all Deverill Longbridge, from batch Numbers.

regards birdlip

Sue Mackay
23-03-2008, 6:15 PM
Wonderful. Thanks.

birdlip
23-03-2008, 6:23 PM
My pleasure.

aland
13-07-2008, 12:38 PM
Hi Sue,
I just wondered if your Dicks family has any links to the Dicks families of Porton/Idmiston area ?

Do you know the maiden name of Sarah from your previous posting :

The following were on the original sailing list in 1819 but did not emigrate in 1820:
George DICKS (27) with wife Sarah and children Ann (2) and Thomas (1) ?
Regards,
Aland.

Sue Mackay
13-07-2008, 1:06 PM
Am currently in Florence so have no access to my files. I don't know much more about the Dicks than was in my posting, but will have a look when I get back.


Hi Sue,
I just wondered if your Dicks family has any links to the Dicks families of Porton/Idmiston area ?

Do you know the maiden name of Sarah from your previous posting :

The following were on the original sailing list in 1819 but did not emigrate in 1820:
George DICKS (27) with wife Sarah and children Ann (2) and Thomas (1) ?
Regards,
Aland.

Sue Mackay
16-07-2008, 2:57 PM
Do you know the maiden name of Sarah from your previous posting :

The following were on the original sailing list in 1819 but did not emigrate in 1820:
George DICKS (27) with wife Sarah and children Ann (2) and Thomas (1) ?


Am now back but I have no further information for you, I'm afraid. I think Birdlip found the answer to your question in Post 7 above.

I am not descended from the DICKS family but am directly descended from three of the 1820 settler families from Westbury, and there was a great deal of intermarriage once the settlers reached the Cape. I have been trying to help South African descendants of the Longbridge Deverill group untangle their roots.

aland
17-07-2008, 10:14 PM
We have 5 James Dicks ancestors but unfortunately none tie up, all have different wives or abodes.
Thanks for looking anyway Sue.