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Melissa Jones
06-06-2006, 1:41 AM
Hello all,

I have a number of Irish ancestors and would appreciate anyones help with finding out more information on them.

My great, great grandfather was Patrick Hogan (p. Thomas Hogan and Anne Horrigan/Hourigan). He was born around 1845 in Ballyrickard, Co. Tipperary. Known siblings were: James, Timothy, Thomas, Michael (and possibly Daniel). Married: Bridget Hogan from Co. Tipperary (p. Jeremiah Hogan and Anne Whelan/Whalen) (known siblings: Michael, James, John, Ellen (and 1 other female) in Cloughjordan. Patrick and Bridget came to Australia with their children, Anne and Mary.

Most of Patrick and Bridget's siblings came to Australia but I'm eager to find distant cousins whose families stayed in Ireland.

Any other help or advice with researching my Irish ancestors would also be appreciated.

Regards,

Melissa Jones

RichardMarcJ
30-06-2006, 8:03 PM
My family came from Tipperary and many still live there. However, we have no Hogans. We're Morrisseys and Wilsons. How have you gone about trying to find information on your family?

JNicLiam
01-07-2006, 9:45 AM
Hi Melissa
A few thoughts as to how you could approach this. One you could go onto the curious fox website as it is now also covering irish villages. You could enter your family information for free for both locations and see if anyone gets in touch. This site also has good map links so very useful in pinpointing location of a village and which villages are close by.
Also you could look at the Tipperary surname list at www.
connorsgenealogy.com/tipp/tipperarysurnamesEtoL.html and contact the Hogans there and see if any are related.
I assume you have already looked at the Tipperary page on Genuki - http://
home.pacbell.net/nymets11/genuki/TIP/index.html -a fund of info on County Tip.

Hope this helps.
Jill
Researching COTTER Brosna Co Kerry and Glanworth Co Cork and Cork City
QUAID Cloncagh Co Limerick and Cork City

Melissa Jones
03-07-2006, 1:37 AM
Thanks both for your suggestions - it is much appreciated.

I've put quite a few Hogan entries on various websites but have had limited replies (surprisingly though, I've had more luck with this method with my Jones ancestors). Conversely, I've replied to numerous entries but have been unable to find any connections so far.

Looking through the Ireland telephone directory, I've come across a Hogan living in Ballyrickard. However, I feel abit awkward just sending them a letter. Has anyone tried this method before?

Melissa

a.barnes
07-07-2006, 5:08 PM
I have a number of Irish ancestors and would appreciate anyones help with finding out more information on them.

My great, great grandfather was Patrick Hogan

Hi Melissa
I know I am not being very helpful here with you In Australia, but the best way of finding ancestors in Ireland is to visit the place to get a view on how small the areas are and how villages seem to merge into one another. Cloughjordan for instance. We were looking at Borrisokane and Cappanasmear. Borrisokane is a town with a High Street. Capanasmear is just fields and totally rural, although only a couple of miles apart. We didn't connect the 2 families for years until we actually saw how close the places were. What the land doesn't show you is at some point, there had been quite a lot of houses in Cappanasmear and now there is nothing. Wooden constructions and stone buildings without foundations won't leave a mark with the passage of time.
The locals look at you with an air of bewilderment as it is beyond their comprehension as to why you would traipse around, looking for dead people. We saw hundreds of Hogan graves in Borrisokane and the surrounding areas. The name is one of the most common and everyone you speak to is either a Hogan or related to one. Infact, they all seem to be related to each other ?? But finding relatives from the potato famine era is hard as the records are few, the gravestones are few and these people are well out of living memory to the locals.
Your best bet is to start off with a good map. Look for tithe aplotments, trade directorys, Griffiths Valuation lists and start to piece it together like a jigsaw. Contact the Tipperary History Society (I think for that area it is Nora O'Meara). You have to pay but they do give you baptisms, marriages or burial records. Unfortunately in Ireland, the family history societys do have everything sewn up so that unless you visit each church seperately and sit under the bemused and sometimes annoyed gaze of the parish priest, there is no other way of accessing records, especially from abroad.
One other thing I will say and which we learnt while there from the locals is that a lot of the older graves will be found in the Church of Ireland graveyards even if the family was Catholic.
regards
Andrea

Melissa Jones
10-07-2006, 2:02 AM
Thanks for the email Andrea.

Yes, I would love to go over to Ireland someday and explore the Tipperary area.
Searching for a name Hogan in Tipperary is luckily not as daunting as searching for my Jones ancestors in Wales ; )
I've been able to find my G-G-G Grandfather, Thomas Hogan, on the Griffiths Valuation lists in Ballyrickard North, County Tipperary. I have a suspicion that Thomas' father may have been named James, but need to get further evidence to prove this.

Thanks again for your advice.

Regards,

Melissa

Midletonman
26-08-2006, 10:28 PM
Looking through the Ireland telephone directory, I've come across a Hogan living in Ballyrickard. However, I feel abit awkward just sending them a letter. Has anyone tried this method before?

Melissa
It's not that unusual an approach to try and some have had great success with it.
Twp points to remember:
Never say you are doing Genealogy - this seems to make people run a mile - like you are after the family fortune or something.
Put an addressed envelope in with the return postage.

I have heard of some people putting relevant photo's in as well which seems to help.

There are no guarantees but nothing ventured, nothing gained as they say.

Good luck

You could also try posting too Y-Ireland, they are a very friendly bunch and with a thousand plus members you might get lucky. You will certainly get some good advise from them.

Good luck

Melissa Jones
27-08-2006, 2:55 PM
Thanks for the advice Midletonman. I'm attending a family reunion this weekend so will discuss some things with my cousins who are also compiling the family history. If we haven't been able to find out any other info, I'll suggest that we write to individuals listed in the phone book.

Melissa

phoenixerising
12-09-2006, 9:15 PM
hi i emailed someone erlier today who had the surname burke and i think they said something about hogans from tipperary
but sometimes writing a letter does work.

This Michael Burke came to America in 1838 as a young boy. He settled in the upstate New York town of Chataguay. In 1850 he married Catherine Hogan. They had a farm in Ellenburg, New York. They had five children Catherine, Mary, John, Bridget, and Margaret. I'm not sure where the Burke's came from in Ireland, but they were on the same ship as the Hogan's and the Hogan's came from Tipperary. Michael Burke is my great-great-grandfather. It this is the Michael Burke you're looking for I have much more on the family. Good luck.
this was what he sent me i hope it helps you

fiona burke

Melissa Jones
13-09-2006, 1:30 AM
Hi Fiona,

Thanks for the reply. I haven't come across a Catherine Hogan in my family history so far. County Tipperary is one of the main centres for the Hogan name so there are heaps around.

Melissa

Melissa Jones
14-09-2006, 12:58 AM
Hi!

Thanks for your message. I haven't come across a Bridget Hogan marrying an Ernest Davies in my family tree so far. However, since you mentioned Bridget came from Nenagh (which is near to where my Hogan's came from), I'll keep your details in case anything shows up in the future.

Melissa

mandynice30
24-05-2008, 12:46 AM
Hi i am a hogan My grandparent s lived in tipperary town in ireland. They both died in 1999. They have kept there live's quite a secret & it's really hard trying to find out information my nans surname before marrying was Jones. I do know that some of the family along time ago went to america & australia. I know i have family out there it's just finding them.

lozhogan
12-09-2008, 12:41 AM
Hello all,

I have a number of Irish ancestors and would appreciate anyones help with finding out more information on them.

My great, great grandfather was Patrick Hogan (p. Thomas Hogan and Anne Horrigan/Hourigan). He was born around 1845 in Ballyrickard, Co. Tipperary. Known siblings were: James, Timothy, Thomas, Michael (and possibly Daniel). Married: Bridget Hogan from Co. Tipperary (p. Jeremiah Hogan and Anne Whelan/Whalen) (known siblings: Michael, James, John, Ellen (and 1 other female) in Cloughjordan. Patrick and Bridget came to Australia with their children, Anne and Mary.

Most of Patrick and Bridget's siblings came to Australia but I'm eager to find distant cousins whose families stayed in Ireland.

Any other help or advice with researching my Irish ancestors would also be appreciated.

Regards,

Melissa Jones


Hi my names Laurence James Hogan im the son of Daniel Hogan im 37 my dad is 59 we live in leicester england and my dad's brother was Micheal Hogan their sister is Regina Hogan.. my Gran was Linda(Ellen) Hogan, nee Murphy.
My grandfather was Patrick Hogan from tipperary who came over to england.. a bit......
maybe we related????????

lozhogan
12-09-2008, 12:49 AM
Hi i am a hogan My grandparent s lived in tipperary town in ireland. They both died in 1999. They have kept there live's quite a secret & it's really hard trying to find out information my nans surname before marrying was Jones. I do know that some of the family along time ago went to america & australia. I know i have family out there it's just finding them.

Hi my names Laurence James Hogan im the son of Daniel Hogan im 37 my dad is 59 we live in leicester england and my dad's brother was Micheal Hogan their sister is Regina Hogan.. my Gran was Linda(Ellen) Hogan, nee Murphy.
My grandfather was Patrick Hogan from tipperary who came over to england, (bedford was were my dad went to school for a few years when he was a 7,8,9ish).......Our Hogan family has relatives in America, somewhere?!?
maybe we related????????

Mutley
12-09-2008, 1:18 AM
Just to add to the list.

Bridget, William, Annie, Mary and Margaret born between 1895 and 1904
Parents: Thomas Hogan and Margaret Mary Madden married 1893.

Thomas is the son of William Hogan and Anne.
Margaret is the daughter of Daniel Madden.

From Nenagh, Tipperary

AnnieOC
29-03-2010, 9:14 PM
hi i emailed someone erlier today who had the surname burke and i think they said something about hogans from tipperary
but sometimes writing a letter does work.

This Michael Burke came to America in 1838 as a young boy. He settled in the upstate New York town of Chataguay. In 1850 he married Catherine Hogan. They had a farm in Ellenburg, New York. They had five children Catherine, Mary, John, Bridget, and Margaret. I'm not sure where the Burke's came from in Ireland, but they were on the same ship as the Hogan's and the Hogan's came from Tipperary. Michael Burke is my great-great-grandfather. It this is the Michael Burke you're looking for I have much more on the family. Good luck.
this was what he sent me i hope it helps you

fiona burke

I have Burke (Catharine) married Patrick O'Connell, family from Ellenbury in NY, both originally from Tipperary. I also have Johanna Hogan from Tipperary married James O'Connell, parents of Patrick, perhaps never leaving Tipperary.

I do have a younger Johanna Hogan (from Chateaguay) visiting my Ellenburg O'Connell's in late 1870s. Too much for coincidence. Contact me if you are still out there!
AnnieO

locallad27
15-04-2010, 9:41 PM
Nenagh Roots 1901; (taken from 1901 census, but with less detail)
Abbey lane (7)
Hogan Winifred; (midwife)

Barrack st (47)
Hogan Catherine, Anne, Maggie, Emily, William.
(51)
Hogan Michael & Fanny;

Bachelors walk (13)
Hogan Winifred, Mary (seamstress/fitst named)

Ballycommon;
Hogan Margaret, Daniel, Willie, Cornelius, Edward, Timothy, Nora, Kate, Mary.

Boolageelagh;
Hogan Edward , Bridget,, Margaret.

Ballygasheen;
Hogan Thomas.

Coolaholiga;
Hogan Michael & Mrs; Nora, James, Katie, Con.

Castle st (Nenagh west) (22)
Hogan Thomas & Mary; Mary, James. (spirit merch)

Dublin rd (39)
Hogan William & Julia; Bridget, Mary, Martin, Annie, (John. (blacksmith)
(51)
Hogan Mary;

Islandbawn;
Hogan Hugh & Bridget; Dan, Julia, John, James, Bridget, Hugh.

Knigh;
Hogan Patrick, Bridget.

Old Turnpike; (Nenagh west) (12)
Hogan Margaret;
(21)
Hogan William & Bridget; William, Thomas, Elizabeth, Bridget, Martin, Elizabeth.

Old Turnpike (Nenagh west) (14)
Hogan Johanna, Patrick, Sarah
(15)
Hogan John, Norah (pig dealer)

Peter st (3)
Hogan Julia;(publican-grocer)

Pound st or Cudville rd (22)
Hogan Thomas & Margaret; Mary, William, Annie, Bridget, Anne.

Pound st (15)
Hogan John & Sarah; Ellen, Patrick, Margaret, John.
(27)
Hogan Denis & Margaret; William.
(52)
Hogan Bridget, Nannie, Bridget.

Silver st (Nenagh east) (46)
Hogan James;

(quite a few left behind!!)

locallad27
15-04-2010, 10:24 PM
Tipperary Town Roots 1901;
Ballynilard (Rural)
Hayes; (Hogan Daniel)

Bohercrowe (Rural)
Hogan James & Johanna; James & Margaret; Johanna.
Hogan Denis & Bridget; Ellen, Denia.

Bridget st -west;
Hogan Patrick & Bridget; Thomas, Margaret, Bridget. (newsagent)

Cordangan;
Hogan John, Mary, James, William, Annie. (coachman)

Davis st- west (Murgasty) (8)
Hogan John, Bridget. (auctioneer)

Dillon st- Bohercrow (15)
Hogan Patrick & Sarah; (postman)

Eaton Cottages (30)
Hogan John & Mary; Margaret, Bridget, James. (tinsmith)

Lane; North of William O Brien st (Hannons Cottages) (6)
Hogan Thomas & Elizabeth;
(14)
Hogan Pat & Ellen; Pat, Tom, Dan, Mat, Mary

Limerick rd; (30)
Hogan Michael, Michael.
(86)
Hogan Mary, Mary, John.

Main st-South east (Knockanrawley) (5)
Hogan William & Catherine; (trader)
(21)
Hogan Mary, Thomas, Margaret, James, Mary.
(30)
Hogan Edmond & Deboragh; Patrick, Bridget, Margaret. (grocer)

Reddans walk;
Hogan Johanna, Mary.

William O Brien st (36)
Hogan James, Thaddeus, Mary. (bookkeeper)

locallad27
15-04-2010, 10:43 PM
Carrick-on-Suir Roots 1901;
Ballyinch; (1)
Hogan Edmund & Hannah; Hanoria, Mary, Francis.

Chapel lane (12)
Hogan Pierce & Bridget; Nicholas.

John st (9)
Hogan Patrick & Margaret; (chimney sweep)

Racks lane (1)
Hogan James & Kate; Kate, Minnie, Stephen, John, Bridget, Edmond, James, Ellen, Patrick. (butcher)

Salt Yard lane (13)
Hogan Peter & Alice; William, John.

Tinvane (3)
Hogan Bridget, Michael.
(6)
Hogan Thomas & Margaret;

Mutley
16-04-2010, 1:46 AM
I am going to have to print this out and study it. Abbey Lane and Cudville are mine. :)

locallad27
16-04-2010, 8:50 PM
Nenagh Electors List 1940/41;

Barrack st (kenyon st)
Hogan Annie, Mathew, Gretta.

Brewery lane (Rossa place)
Hogan Norah, Margaret.

Bachelor's walk (O Rahilly st)
Hogan John, Elizabeth.

Ballygasheen
Hogan Bridget, Patrick.

Ballynaclough
Hogan Mary, Maryanne, Patrick, Bridget.

Castle st (Pearse st) North west
Hogan John, Annie.

Dublin rd (Mac Donagh st) Nenagh east
Hogan Bridget, Edward.

Grace st (St Flannan's st)
Hogan James, Kate.

Knockanpierce (St Patricks tce)
Hogan Mary.

Loughourna
Hogan James.

Nenagh North East
Hogan Bridget, Martin, Catherine, Ernast, Thomas, Mollie, Chissie.

Pound st (Sarsfield st) South west
Hogan Bridget, Mary, Michael, Mary, Bridget.

Pound st (Sarsfield st) North east
Hogan Ellen, John, Michael.

Rathfalla
Hogan Annie, Bridget, Patrick.

Rathnaleen north
Hogan William, Mary.

Richmond
Hogan Daniel, Michael, Margaret.

St Josephs park
Hogan Martin, Joseph, Martin, Norah.

Silver st (Connolly st)
Hogan William.

Turnpkie (Ormond st)
Hogan Martin, Lizzie, Hannah, May, Richard, William.

Tyone
Hogan Michael.

locallad27
16-04-2010, 10:07 PM
Missed these in Nenagh;
Falvey's lane (12)
Hogan Martin & Kate; James, Mary, Margaret, Joseph, Martin
(13)
Hogan Tim & Catherine;

Only found one DAVIS in Nenagh;
Rapla south;
Davis George, Maggie, George.

locallad27
20-04-2010, 3:54 PM
From 'Tipperary War Dead' (1st World War)
Hogan J.
Rank; Private;
Regiment/Service; Royal Irish. Unit 2nd Bn.
Died; 12/11/1918 (32)
Son of James & Catherine Hogan, St John's rd, Carrick-on-Suir.
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Hogan James;
Rank; Private.
Regiment/Service; Irish Guards; Ubit 1st Bn.
Died; 9/10/1917 (24)
Son of Michael & Mary Hogan, Shanrahan, Clogheen Cahir, Tipperary.
==================
Hogan James Henry;
Rank; Private.
Regiment/Service; Australian Imperial Force; Unit 1st Bn.
Died; 2/5/1915
(Reported missing on 2/5/1915, and declared Killed in action after a Court of Inquiry on 11/5/1915) Body not recovered.
Born; Arkloney, Borris OKane, Tipperary.
Father; Mr Samuel Hogan, Congor Cottage, Borrisokane, Tipperary.
====================
Hogan John;
Rank; Driver.
Regiment/Service; Army Service Corps; Unit; 16th Div, Train H.Q.
Died; 6/10/1916
Born; Cappawhite.
Father of Miss Mary Hogan, 24, Davis rd, Clonmel, Tipperary.
================
Hogan John;
Rank; Private.
Regiment/Service; Middlesex Regiment; Unit; 5th Bn
Died; 10/10/1918 (19).
Born; Grawn, Tipperary.
Son of Michael & Johanna Hogan, Sally park, Latteragh, Thurles, Tipperary.
==================

locallad27
27-05-2010, 10:59 PM
Tipperary War Dead (more)

Hogan Joseph
Rank; Privare
Regiment or Service; Royal Irish
Unit; 5th Bn.
Died; 18/9/1915 (24)
Died in Salonika
Son of Thomas & Mary Hogan, Killimore, Galway.
================
Hogan M.
Rank; Private
Regiment or Service; Royal Irish
Unit; Depot
Died; 31/5/1917.
Interred; St Michaels New Cemetery, Tipperary.
=================
Hogan Matthew
Rank; Private
Regiment or Service; Leinster Regiment
Unit; 7th Bn.
Died; 3/9/1916 Killed in action.
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Hogan Michael
Rank; Stoker First Class
Regiment or Service; HMS Jason
Died; 3/4/1917 (24)
HMS Jason was a Torpedo Gunboat and sank after hitting a mine near Coll Island, Scotland.
==================
Hogan Patrick
Rank; Private
Regiment or Service; Leinster Regiment
Unit; 'D' Coy. 2nd Bn
16/6/1917 (33) Killed in action.
Born; Nenagh
Sonof John & Sarah Hogan, 15 Pound st, Nenagh Tipperary
==================
Hogan Patrick
Rank; Private
Regiment or Service; Royal Irish
Unit; 6th Bn
Died; 20/6/1916. Killed in action.
Born; Borrisokane
=============
Hogan Philip
Rank; Corporal
Regiment or Service; Machine Gun Corps (Infantry)
Unit; 82nd Coy
Died; 5/9/1918 (27)
Born; Cashel
Son of John & Bridget Hogan, Poulmucka, Cashel Tipperary
=============
Hogan William
Rank; Private
Regiment or Service; Royal Irish
Unit; 2nd Bn
Died; 24/8/1914 Died of wounds.
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Hogan William
Rank; Private
Regiment or Service; Irish Guards
Unit; 2nd Bn
Died; 27/11/1917 Killed in action.
Born; Puckane (Enlisted in Nenagh)
==============
Hogan William
Rank; Gunner
Regiment or Service; Royal Garrison Artillery
Unit; 1st Mountain Battery
Died; 13/1/1916 (35)
born; Borrisokane
Son of Rody & Bridget Hogan.
============

Mutley
27-05-2010, 11:18 PM
Goodness me, so many.

Sadly not mine but certainly belong to someone.

Thanks for all your hard work. ;)